On Feb 28, 2012, at 9:56 PM, Perelman, Michael wrote:

Gar comes close to Marx, who says that earlier modes of production [feudalism, slavery] pumped out surplus, but not in the form of surplus value.

I always had the impression that surplus value was not a concept that applied only to capitalism, but that capitalism had as a critical core a particular way of assigning claims on surplus value. For instance, under some forms of feudalism the primary producer of surplus value was agricultural labor, but the primary means of claiming that surplus value was rent. True?

Surplus-value is characteristic only of capitalism because only under capitalism does the social product take the form of *commodities*, which are *values* denominated in labor-time equivalents (prices), A feudal system extracts surplus labor (not surplus-value) in the forms of dues-in-kind and corvée. The essence of the transition from feudalism to capitalism was the substitution of money-rent for dues and corvée.






Shane Mage

"All things are an equal exchange for fire and fire for all things,
as goods are for gold and gold for goods."

Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr, 90

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