Like I said, it's a mix. Right now I'd be surprised that anything good was 
going on in mainstream companies. 

I personally loathe Google and never thought of it as a fun or interesting 
place to work. 

Joanna 

----- Original Message -----
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Peter Hollings <[email protected]> wrote: 
> You bring back fond memories that are worthy of note. Mine were from Route 
> 128 companies in Massachusetts. It was before the suits and sales-driven 
> culture took over. Software was a fantastic new medium for smart, creative 
> people from all the disciplines to work in. Software is like an abstract 
> machine freed of the limitations of the physical world. There is no friction 
> or wear. Reproduction costs were infinitesimal. For information there, is no 
> Newtonian Law of Conservation – it can be copied infinitely without loss. 
> Diverse, interesting people were attracted by this and a free-wheeling 
> culture evolved, some of which survives today in the developer community. 


I think this article is relevant to this discussion: 
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/jw_on_tech/archive/2012/03/13/why-i-left-google.aspx 
---------------------------------snip 
It wasn’t an easy decision to leave Google. During my time there I 
became fairly passionate about the company. I keynoted four Google 
Developer Day events, two Google Test Automation Conferences and was a 
prolific contributor to the Google testing blog. Recruiters often 
asked me to help sell high priority candidates on the company. No one 
had to ask me twice to promote Google and no one was more surprised 
than me when I could no longer do so. In fact, my last three months 
working for Google was a whirlwind of desperation, trying in vain to 
get my passion back. 

The Google I was passionate about was a technology company that 
empowered its employees to innovate. The Google I left was an 
advertising company with a single corporate-mandated focus. 

Technically I suppose Google has always been an advertising company, 
but for the better part of the last three years, it didn’t feel like 
one. Google was an ad company only in the sense that a good TV show is 
an ad company: having great content attracts advertisers. 
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