Mr. Cox -- This exchange started because Raghu was curious what libertarians thought about an issue. I know it is hard for you to believe, but some people are actually curious why people hold alternative views. In fact, I have read your posts for over a decade, and I don't think you are curious about the views of others with which you agree, let alone disagree.
David Shemano -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carrol Cox Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:16 AM To: 'Progressive Economics' Subject: Re: [Pen-l] the Master speaks Years ago I stopped arguing with libertarians for the reason Gene gives in his last sentence: It's pointless to argue with what is utter nonsense. What in the hell do yous ay to someone who holds that the area of a square is pi times the radius squared? Or who grounds a complex argument on the premise that the Pacific is fresh water? Carrol > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:pen-l- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Eugene Coyle > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 4:59 PM > To: Progressive Economics > Subject: Re: [Pen-l] the Master speaks > > David, > This post perfectly reveals the abyss at the heart of libertarianism. You > picture the boss and the employees engaging each other as citizens. I picture the > employees being VERY careful about expressing their views in this situation. In > other words, the employees don't have free speech and thus your whole world > view is clearly nonsense. > > Gene > > On Oct 19, 2012, at 2:24 PM, David Shemano wrote: > > > Why would you be interested in what libertarians think about this issue? > Libertarians are free speech absolutists, so there is no issue here > for libertarians. > On the other hand, I am SHOCKED liberals and progressives have an > issue with > employers talking politics with their employees. I thought liberals > and progressives love the "public square" and people leaving their > atomized shells to > engage in political issues. What could be better than employers and employees > standing around the watercooler engaging each other as citizens > concerned about > current events? > > > > David Shemano > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:pen-l- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of raghu > > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:04 AM > > To: Progressive Economics > > Subject: Re: [Pen-l] the Master speaks > > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Jim Devine <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks to Citizens United, employers can legally tell their > >> employees who they think they should vote for. Mitt Romney wants > >> small business owners to do just that this November. > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> The call, recorded on June 6, was first published yesterday evening > >> by In These Times, a liberal magazine based in Chicago, and later > >> picked up by ThinkProgress and the Huffington Post, among others. > >> While the practice of an employer offering voting advice to an > >> employee appears to be perfectly legal (as Romney points out), it's > >> nonetheless a somewhat controversial practice that never goes over > >> well with liberals who see lines like "in the best interest of ... > >> their job" as akin to "vote for my guy or else." > > > > > > > > I'd be very interested in hearing what libertarians think about this. > > -raghu. > > _______________________________________________ > > pen-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pen-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l > > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
