Hello Gar,

I agree on all counts with Jim.

With the growth of monopoly, the opposite is the case: the surplus tends to 
rise yet there is nowhere to invest it.

Best,

Jamil

On Nov 19, 2012, at 9:31 PM, Jim Devine <[email protected]> wrote:

> Gar Lipow wrote:
>> Going to your source, profits have been rising faster than investment (minus 
>> a blip after the crash. Profits now recovered.) So profit rate has been 
>> rising since 1987.  Now I know Marx is a long term thinker and global, but 
>> still maybe there is something wrong with the whole idea that capitalism 
>> necessarily suffers from falling profits...<
> 
> the falling rate of profit theory is fundamentally flawed, which
> shouldn't be surprising since Marx never really finished developing a
> theory of the tendency for the rate of profit to fall. (It didn't used
> to be the "orthodox" theory either: for a long time,
> "disproportionality" theories dominated.)
> 
> FWIW, I only referred to the fall of the rate of profit going out of
> the 1960s (in the US), not to some long-term trend.
> 
>>  How vital is "falling rate of profit" to modern Marxist thinking?
> 
> not very. It's one theory.
> 
>> Does the rest of Marxism really depend on it being true? <
> 
> no.
> 
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