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So we have been told a lot that if we need to focus on the fight
against capitalism and not harp on racism because everyone is
suffering ( I agree we have all been duped ) Question of the day if
capitalism was to end today would racism go way with it?
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Angel M. Stout see @Image Blitz. Racists in denial.
2 hours ago via mobile · Like
Taffy Laffy This country was BOOMING-- uh colonialism is still
a global order of white supremacy.
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Joseph Nicolas Zecher Theres truth to that, because thats how
it works, they pit us all against ourselves so we cannot join up and
go after them The only color thats important is Green..not black,
white, yellow, brown....
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Taffy Laffy *imperialism
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Kike Lillo Learned and inherited behavior is racism. Just like
nationalism, patriotism, and other "isms". It's real but it's based on
ignorance, on a complete lack of knowledge that requires us to see
that there is really no difference between you and me. We all have the
same wants and needs. We have the choice to indoctrinate or not our
children and pass on our biased views of the world. Do we saddle them
with the weight of what we experienced or do we try to bring about a
truly new generation. That is where change really begins. Laws have
never succeeded in forcing a man/woman to change where it really
matters. In the center of their being.
2 hours ago · Like
Joseph Nicolas Zecher Racism will end when parents stop
poisoning children with this crap.
2 hours ago · Like
Jay Cherise no and honestly the ones who are pushing for poc
to only focus on capitalism instead of eradicating racism first will
not give a fuck whether racism goes away with capitalism... their
fight would've been won and where would it leave us? still subjected
to racism... besides i dont feel its possible for capitalism to be
completely done away with without doing away with racism FIRST.
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Christopher Ronan Conway @sulah that's very true. a lot of
people got upset that France elected a "socialist" but he's still just
as strictly against public wearing of headscarves and for French
nationalism as any other party would be.
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Amy Hasbrouck I believe racism is a pillar of capitalism,
because capitalism requires a class of impoverished, disenfranchised
people to sustain itself, and racism is a convenient way to achieve
that. As long as we challenge racism, we ARE fighting capitalism.
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Kevin Noble Williams Minus Here is a better question Occupy
The Hood does racism ever need to "end"? Can it "end"? Would it matter
if "we" had our own provisions and self sustaining communities? Would
racism be a big deal if "we" had money?
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Happily Natural Day wasnt hitler socialist?
2 hours ago · Like
Adam Overlock It's not about racism or capitalism or any other
kind of ism. It's about the haves vs the have nots, as it's always
been. Racism and capitalism are just two of the tools that are used to
oppress the masses.
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Author Aquila M. Coulibaly Capitalism is the sister of racism
..you have to fight and destroy the Mother-OPPRESSION!!
2 hours ago · Like
Ashley Martian honestly, the thing i hear from most
anti-capitalists who want their movement to come first (most of whom
are straight, white cismen...) is that racism (and most other
identity-based oppressions) will be easier to fix after "the
revolution". this idea is bullshit. Oppressed peoples have been told
to wait since we started fighting back. Stonewall would never have
happened if we had just sat back and waited. The civil rights movement
wouldn't have happened if we had sat back and waited. We can't fight
capitalism without queer kids, women, and people of color, and unless
the people who think they are explicitly anti-capitalist understand
that, the white men will be fighting this battle all by themselves.
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Misti Johnson Craig Do the people telling you this not know
that capitalism is used to perpetuate racism? Or that capitalism has
bastardized feminism to promote the flow of money in to white
households and create distruction in nonwhite families? (I know that
statement will piss people off but it's true). As white women entered
the workforce in mass numbers who was pushed out?
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Charles Brown Capitalism will not end until white supremacy (
better to say white supremacy than racism) is substantially defeated .
Only the 99% _united_ can end capitalism. The main division of the 99%
is by white supremacy. So, the answer is : capitalism won't end today
unless white supremacy is defeated substantially and simultaneously.
And the other way around: white supremacy is a main bulwark of
capitalism, and so capitalism engenders it, promotes it, perpetuates
it. The 99% will end white supremacy in the course of ending
capitalism.
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Kevin Noble Williams Minus So you guys are just a bunch of
radical egalitarians? Smh..Is that what I am getting from this? As you
post this stuff on a product that would not have been created if not
for capitalism? I guess...
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David Dang Hitler was a National Socialist and the first
people he killed were the Communists. The Nazis outlawed strikes by
employees and lockouts by employers, because these were regarded a
threat to national unity. That is not socialism.
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Charles Brown Ask yourself the question which came 1st?////
Historically , they were born together as twins about 500 years ago,
white supremacy and capitalism, mutually reinforcing, mutually
causing.
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Charles Brown "The discovery of gold and silver in America,
the extirpation, enslavement and entombment in mines of the aboriginal
population, the beginning of the conquest and looting of the East
Indies, the turning of Africa into a warren for the commercial hunting
of black-skins, signalised the rosy dawn of the era of capitalist
production. These idyllic proceedings are the chief momenta of
primitive accumulation. On their heels treads the commercial war of
the European nations, with the globe for a theatre. It begins with the
revolt of the Netherlands from Spain, assumes giant dimensions in
England’s Anti-Jacobin War, and is still going on in the opium wars
against China, &c. "
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Kevin Noble Williams Minus Charles Brown, you really think
"defeating" capitalism is the way forward? Do you really believe that
or does it just sound good to you on facebook?
"white supremacy and capitalism, mutually reinforcing,
mutually causing."
I am not trying to be insulting. I am serious. Do you really
believe that?
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Charles Brown This country was BOOMING financially in the 50's
- and racism was/is alive and well. Racism isn't caused by bad
financial times, it's caused by ignorance and fear, greed and hate.
/////// Actually, the 1950's marked a major victory for racial unity
and against white supremacy in the form of the Civil Rights movement,
Civil Rights Act of 1954, _Brown vs Bd of Education_ ruling against
white supremacist segregation. The economic Golden Age of the 50's
coincided with a major defeat of white supremacy.
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Benjamin Ratliffe May I ask WHO it was who told you this?
Honestly sounds a bit like when Fox News pundits say, "some people
say..."
Ever since McCarthy and the Cold War, and especially after the
collapse of the movements of the 60s and 70s, there has been a cottage
industry of academic writing trying to prove that the Marxist critique
of the relationship between Capitalism and oppression(s) downplays the
important of the latter. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Racism and Homophobia have developed along side, dialectically, with
Capitalism -- we CAN'T fight one without fighting the other!
As Marx put it: "the revolution is necessary, therefore, not
only because the ruling class cannot be overthrown in any other way,
but also because the class overthrowing it can only in a revolution
succeed in ridding itself of all the muck of ages and become fitted to
found society anew."
(I didn't list Sexism above because I think THAT developed in
tandem with CLASS SOCIETY - i.e. much earlier than Capitalism.
However, as Capitalism is a form of class society, and socialists see
the potential of ending class society in the fight against the private
exploitation of social labor - i.e. capitalism - sexist ideas and
institutions can be smashed, alongside those of Racism and Homophobia,
as people engaging in revolutionary struggle "rid themselves of all
the muck of ages"
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Jennifer Ofosua Alsmot can't believe you guys are entertaining
this discussion. Isn't the unemployment rate down to 7.7% now? Smh
about an hour ago · Like
Tabias Wilson I agree that interconnectedness is real,
however, racism and white supremacy run rampant despite economic
configurations.
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Charles Brown Charles Brown, you really think "defeating"
capitalism is the way forward? Do you really believe that or does it
just sound good to you on facebook? //// Definitely believe it. Surely
, you don't think keeping capitalism is the way forward ? (smiles)
Kevin Noble Williams Minus
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Charles Brown Alsmot can't believe you guys are entertaining
this discussion. Isn't the unemployment rate down to 7.7% now? /////
Historically, 7.7 % unemployment is a very high rate. Google "history
of unemployment rate".
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Daniel Werst First, I think only a working class that
effectively fights racism can be capable of uniting and defeating
capitalism.
Besides, if we think that ending capitalism means ending
exploitation, meaning making sure that all the value produced by work
goes to the worker and in an equitable way into public goods like
schools, healthcare, etc, then socialism requires an end to
discrimination. and not in any passive or wait and see kind of way
like how we just hear lies about it now, but through struggle and self
emancipation
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Lincoln Rose No racism wouldn't end. People are far too used
to the structures being there, and I think would attempt to access the
same structures even without capitalism until taught to access
something else. Our culture would need to be treated like someone with
a serious injury, & taught new ways to learn around the wounds.
about an hour ago · Like
David Dang Capitalism will still not be great if racism was
abolished, I mean, would you prefer it if it was a poc paying below
the minimum wage instead of a white person?
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Misti Johnson Craig I feel that the dicussion of racism is
important to continue along side capitalism and apart from it.
Dividing us racially is such a powerful tool for the 1% and their
followers.
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David Dang Something to think about ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5fuhAYi1sI
Fred Hampton - Educational Program
Fred Hampton, the leader for the Chicago Chapter of the Black
Panther Party, was
killed at 21 by the FBI's COINTEL-PRO and the Chicago Police
Department on D...
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James Sampson Dugan Racism is an intensified form of classism
and both are the result of imperialistic capitalism. While racism was
created through the values of capitalism it is so embedded in American
culture that, no, it would not go away with the end of capitalism. And
for all these white middle class liberals who say it affects everyone,
true, but look at marginalized poverty, urban poverty, poverty from
the result of discrimination and underrepresentation and realize that
it hurts the bottom of the caste system much more.
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Lincoln Rose The idea of separating out movements is a
specifically white (and I think middle class as well) idea. I'll never
forget watching Dangerous Living: Coming Out in the Developing World.
(I know, it's a messed up title, but I have a point.) The one thing
that stuck with me was a gay man who said that being gay was not a
"white thing", but that separating out gay rights from the rest of the
human rights struggle is a white thing.
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Chris Fontaine just disappear ? lol like it's just a
reflection of capitalism ? I'd say it has deff been a tool and
probably one of the best tools they have to keep us separated. it
plays on inner fears and inferiority complexes, just like "classism"
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Eugene Onegin Racist ideology and institutions bolster the
capitalist system in many ways. It only serves the fight against the
one to combine it with the fight against the other.
59 minutes ago · Like
Sharky McJohnson All I hear is apologists. Apologists for
white privilege or people of color feeling sorry for themselves. Most
people can't help what body they are born into. I could. I chose,
before I was born, through the power of my will, what body I was born
into. You may have realized, the smarter ones among you, that I'm
being sarcastic...
Well, there is racism. Yes, but that's not really something
that INTELLIGENT people choose to exercise. Most intelligent people
practice tolerance for religion and don't care what other people look
like and are not apart of racism or bigotry.
The real color in the world is GREEN. You bitches can whine
and cry and spout your little "White privilege WAAAA "
and quote your Marcus Garvey and other nonsense. But I don't
give a fuck.
Stop making excuses. You're only setting a bad example for
your own children. Hitler yeah he killed people. And he called himself
a Socialist. He wasn't. He was a Fascist.
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Sharky McJohnson "THERE WILL ONLY BE PEACE WHEN ALL RACES WILL
HAVE THEIR OWN COUNTRY! BLACK PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN COUNTRY, WHITE
PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN COUNTRY, ASIAN PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN CONTRY!!!"
Yeah, we see how well Black people are getting along in
Africa. They kill each other wholesale. And the Japanese massacred
millions of people in WW2. Koreans, Chinese, Filipinos, etc. And
Russians and Germans and Polish people? They're all White. and They
have a long history of invading one another's countries. Just because
you're the same country doesn't mean you get along. Dipshit dumbass
color-fucking idjits.
55 minutes ago · Like
Julie Levinsohn I don't see the two conversation as
"separate," but I think the important thing is to realize how they go
together, the roots and the evolution of the two. That's the way to
start to break it all down, again, the way I see it. Slavery was about
slave labor, economic exploitation for profit. It was important to
make people understand that these people who they knew nothing about
were a race that nobody should question the treatment of, they created
a picture of this "strange" race of people that allowed people to
believe treating them as less than human should not disturb them.
Obviously, that is simplified, but it was involved in women not having
any say in life and being chattel, told how to think, and the majority
of the men being most interested in profit, the entire culture was
submissive to White men already. That is a start, but the evolution,
the way that has all evolved, the way that other groups have been put
into the bottom spot and the illusion of some progress for Blacks has
happened, the growing need to control that population, to keep things
economically in the balance that the powers needed, the continual
remaking of the "image," the flooding of Harlem with heroin to
eventually lead to the "War on Drugs" the military requirements that
led to the loss of huge numbers of young Black men's lives in Vietnam,
urban renewal, the growth of suburbs, on and on. Racism, person to
person, really is not the thing that is the problem in this country,
if everybody doesn't like each other, doesn't want to live next door
to each other, fine...as long as they all have the opportunity to make
the choice. Separate but equal when imposed is like anything imposed
on any people, inherently unequal to begin with. But if people have
the opportunity to create really equal lives, how they live them is up
to them. That's the thing, as I see it, racism, name calling, all of
that...it's just the fuel that the powerful have gotten people to
throw and keep the economic side going. Which is not to say that the
propaganda machine has not done everything to support it, and not to
ignore that huge numbers of people do really believe the vitriol they
spew. Everybody is being duped and used and short changed. Who has had
it worse, now, historically, it isn't that it doesn't matter or should
be ignored or forgotten, but what it all was, who started it, why, how
it made people rich...that is something that needs to be separated,
understood, in a way that makes it obvious. JMO
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Maggie Ahrens White Supremacy/Racism is it's own problem.
Capitalism is its own problem.
They certainly seem to feed on each other, but frankly I don't
see them as intertwined.
42 minutes ago · Like
Charles Brown Marx wrote in 1867 referring specifically to the
United States slave system " Labour cannot emancipate itself in the
white skin when in the black it is branded." So , Marxists have had
the position that white workers cannot end their oppression by
capitalism without ending special oppression of black workers from the
beginning of Marxism, pretty much.
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Julie Levinsohn Just a question: was/is slavery about simply a
hatred, White Supremacy, or about economics? if the roots of "racism"
in this country are slavery, was it about money, greed and profit, or
something else? Was "White Supremacy" originally about economics, was
the rest originally a justification that became a sanctioned movement?
What tactics were used to take a population that theoretically fought
for their "freedom" from "religious oppression" to become at first
complacient and then part of, systematic oppression? This is not a way
to even begin to excuse or dismiss anything, but the point is that it
is important to consider, understand, recognize, resist, the
manipulation used to make people take fear of the unknown to hate and
fear because it is something that has been used throughout our history
over and over. Building on that in other ways is taking religious and
ethnic differences and making populations the blame for economic
hardship...all of it is related?
28 minutes ago · Like
Rossana Snežana Djurdjev You should never let racism go. I do
think today's anti racists on the left need to reevaluate and maybe
even do away with whiteness theories that came from academia in the
80's. Comrade Binh agrees some of these issues we are seeing today
with whites talking about reverse racism, that this is where it's
stemming from.The reasons to revamp theories are many, but most
importantly that it is not proving effective to end racism... Or
truely even understan racism towards blacks in the us in reality.
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Charles Brown "In the United States of North America, every
independent movement of the workers was paralysed so long as slavery
disfigured a part of the Republic. Labour cannot emancipate itself in
the white skin where in the black it is branded."
Vol. I, Ch. 10, Section 7, pg.329
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Brian Escobar Ending cap would certainly help. Cap may have
started racism but its got a history and inertia just like cap. And
cap may turn out to be more delicate. History doesn't unfold like
laboratory experiments that control for variables.
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Bobo Bose-Kolanu They're different, but interlocking,
problems. Racism matters - why were there no (or very few) white
slaves ("indentured servants")? It's not purely economic because there
were a ton of white people in England, they could have just enslaved
them instead of shipping people from Africa.
BUT, how does racism manifest itself today? Through the
economy: increased cost of access to healthcare, education, healthy
food, etc. Decreased class mobility. Harsher prison sentences and an
unfair legal system designed to feed a prison-industrial complex
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison%E2%80%93industrial_complex),
etc.
Those who are anti-racist must be anti-capitalist, because
capitalism says people are objects to be exploited for profit.
Anti-racism says people are not objects.
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Charles Brown Ending cap would certainly help. Cap may have
started racism but its got a history and inertia just like cap. And
cap may turn out to be more delicate. History doesn't unfold like
laboratory experiments that control for variables.// I agree. The
struggle against capitalism must have as a central feature the
struggle against white supremacy (it is important to use "white
supremacy" , and not "racism", as the latter gets used to refer to poc
too much under Reaganism; ideas like "reverse racism" are very wrong).
So, any major defeat of capitalism will have with it a major defeat of
white supremacy; and vice versa. We can't end capitalism without a
major defeat of white supremacy. Capitalism engenders white supremacy,
because the leading capitalists know that their system depends upon
perpetuating white supremacy. Black, Brown, Red, Yellow and White,
unite and fight the bourgeoisie.
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Charles Brown The union was only won at Ford Motor when the
white and black workers united in the union cause.
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