On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Tom Walker <[email protected]> wrote:

> Although that is indeed the standard view, I don't believe it is
> demonstrated. Machinery does reduce the amount of labor time the capitalist
> has to pay for but it does so at least in part by shifting social and
> environmental costs off the employer's balance sheet. What is uncertain is
> whether the direct labor costs of production are lowered more or less than
> the collateral damage of the externalized environmental and social costs.
> I'm beginning to suspect that there is no global saving of labor, only a *
> shifting* of labor costs.
>


Interesting idea, but I am not convinced that this is a well-posed,
falsifiable statement.

Aren't you assuming that different types of costs (labor, environmental)
are somehow commensurable i.e. that it is possible do an objective
accounting of the costs and savings of a given technology so that we can
then check to see if we have a negative or positive balance?

-raghu.
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