Comradely yes, and interesting too but as an attempt to come to grips 
with some "true" state of macro, both frustrating and ultimately 
hopeless on more levels than one. If the economy is an ongoing process 
in a state of becoming, static S-and-D (algebraic) analysis is garbage 
regardless of its "given" micro determinants. For the latter will always 
take macro to be a sum of determinate micro components, and thereby 
define away the possibility of the dynamic macro-condition _determining_ 
the value (and/or price) of those same micro components. Or in other 
words, all conventional economic approaches take it for granted that the 
economy exists _in_ time, rather than _over_ time.

As part of an overall process, s and d curves don't exist at the same 
time and thus cannot be made to cross in a coherent matter. All attempts 
to do so will encounter unsolvable aggregation problems, as well as 
incompletable theories of money and/or capital. Shelving any of those 
away for later consideration, no more than postpones the possibility of 
ever coming to understand what an economy is all about. Instead a 
radically different approach, one that explicitly differentiates 
between  a territorial (physical) reality and a mapped (accounted-for) 
reality of the economy's field of investigation, is needed.
My $.02 worth,

John V
On 20/01/2013 6:16 AM, Marv Gandall wrote:
> On 2013-01-20, at 8:55 AM, Fred Moseley wrote:
>
>> Hi Julio,
>>   
>> I too am a bit frustrated by this discussion, so maybe we should take a 
>> break.
> FWIW, I think you both dealt with your differences in a model comradely way.
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