On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Eubulides <[email protected]>wrote:

> On 3/16/2013 9:09 AM, raghu wrote:
>
> > I wish this sort of thing was restricted to the Right, but even on
> > PEN-L, we can find a Carroll Cox who will object to moral arguments that
> > are not expressed in "objective" utilitarian terms.
>
> =======================
>
> Carroll's a meta-ethical error theorist; so yes, he objects to the use
> of so-called moral discourse when it comes to discussing the sexual
> behavior of consenting adults as well as just about any other issue of
> the so-called 'culture wars.' God is dead, leftists might want to quit
> looking for substitutes.
>



Sorry but this is a mischaracterization of what I was saying. I couldn't
care less either about the so-called culture wars issues like gay marriage,
don't ask don't tell, school prayer etc.

But Carrol Cox objects to moral discourse on *any* subject, even on
something like corporate greed. I see that he has recently he has started
talking about how capitalism should be opposed because it will destroy the
world if it is not stopped - which itself is really a moral position
whether or not he is willing to admit it.

But in my opinion this is not enough. I am inclined to agree with Jim that
a discourse based on a moral principle like empathy is needed for
progressive arguments to be effective.
-raghu.
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