On Apr 6, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Jim Devine wrote:

So stand up, stand up for Judas and the cause that Judas served
It was Jesus who betrayed the poor with his word

While not antisemitic, this song is as much a historical travesty as anything from the Pauline 'Christians." Jesus, as claimant to the royal title of Messiah, was preparing an armed rising against the Romans--why else did the male disciples go *armed* to Gethsemane? Why else did Jesus call on his followers to buy swords even if one had to sell his only cloak to do so? And why else did the Romans mobilize a whole cohort in the middle of the night to back up Herod's Temple police?

On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Shane Mage <[email protected]> wrote:
On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Robert Naiman wrote that title
I object in the strongest terms to the use of that vile antisemitic meme "Judas." Judas according to the Gospel account was the faithful agent of Jesus in everything he did. "Betrayal" was the libel put out by the Paulines to brand the Jewish people with the murder of their invented "God."
(See "Judas Iscariot and the Myth of Jewish Evil" by Hyam Maccoby)



Shane Mage


This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
 always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
 kindling in measures and going out in measures.

 Herakleitos of Ephesos






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