>If you have any better ideas than engaging in politics everyone wants to
know what they are.<

how about trying  "to influence popular opinion so that people don't accept
the "Israel Good/Palestinians Bad" bleat that the media sheep and
politicians encourage"?

by the way, could folks please end the "Trots" and "Stalinists" rhetoric.
That's not useful, especially when it's mere name-calling.  Comments such
as "The capacity of Democrats for self-delusion is boundless" are also
useless. There are lots of other parts of the population whose capacity for
self-delusion is boundless, after all.


On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Robert Naiman
<[email protected]>wrote:

>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Maxim Linchits <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hopefully your policy of constructive dialogue with the Democrats will
>> lead us to victory. After all, it has served American unionism so well in
>> the past 30 years.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> max****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Robert Naiman
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 05, 2013 6:33 PM
>> *To:* Progressive Economics
>> *Subject:* Re: [Pen-l] preemptive compromise once again****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> This is the moment of truth. Now we'll find out if America has a Left or
>> not. If America has a Left, chained CPI can be stopped. Otherwise, the
>> notion that America has a Left will from now on always be a bad joke. ***
>> *
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Jim Devine <[email protected]> wrote:**
>> **
>> and some people hoped he was the new FDR? if "we're all Keynesians," he's
>> an exception.**** [from
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/05/us/social-programs-face-cutback-in-obama-budget.html
>>
>> ]**** Obama Budget to Include Cuts to Programs in Hopes of Deal****By JACKIE
>> CALMES<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/jackie_calmes/index.html>
>>
>> **** Published: April 5, 2013
>>
>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/05/us/social-programs-face-cutback-in-obama-budget.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130405&_r=0#commentsContainer>
>>
>> ****
>>
>> WASHINGTON — President Obama next week will take the political risk of
>> formally proposing cuts to Social 
>> Security<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/s/social_security_us/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier>
>>
>> and 
>> Medicare<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/health/diseasesconditionsandhealthtopics/medicare/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier>
>>
>> in his annual budget in an effort to demonstrate his willingness to
>> compromise with Republicans and revive prospects for a long-term
>> deficit-reduction deal, administration officials say.****
>>
>> In a significant shift in fiscal strategy, Mr. Obama on Wednesday will
>> send a budget plan to Capitol Hill that departs from the usual presidential
>> wish list that Republicans typically declare dead on arrival. Instead it
>> will embody the final compromise offer that he made to Speaker John A.
>> Boehner late last year, before Mr. Boehner abandoned negotiations in
>> opposition to the president’s demand for higher taxes from wealthy
>> individuals and some corporations. ****
>>
>> Congressional Republicans have dug in against any new tax revenues after
>> higher taxes for the affluent were approved at the start of the year. The
>> administration’s hope is to create cracks in Republicans’ antitax
>> resistance, especially in the Senate, as constituents complain about the
>> across-the-board cuts in military and domestic programs that took effect
>> March 1. ****
>>
>> Mr. Obama’s proposed deficit reduction would replace those cuts. And if
>> Republicans continue to resist the president, the White House believes that
>> most Americans will blame them for the fiscal paralysis. ****
>>
>> Besides the tax increases that most Republicans continue to oppose, Mr. 
>> Obama’s
>> budget<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/f/federal_budget_us/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier>
>>
>> will propose a new inflation formula that would have the effect of
>> reducing cost-of-living payments for Social Security benefits, though with
>> financial protections for low-income and very old beneficiaries,
>> administration officials said. The idea, known as chained C.P.I., has
>> infuriated some Democrats and advocacy groups to Mr. Obama’s left, and they
>> have already mobilized in opposition. ****
>>
>>  As Mr. Obama has before, his budget documents will emphasize that he
>> would support the cost-of-living change, as well as other reductions that
>> Republicans have called for in the popular programs for older Americans,
>> only if Republicans agree to additional taxes on the wealthy and
>> infrastructure investments that the president called for in last year’s
>> offer to Mr. Boehner. ****
>>
>> Mr. Obama will propose other spending and tax credit initiatives,
>> including aid for states to make free prekindergarten education available
>> nationwide — a priority outlined in his State of the Union 
>> address<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/s/state_of_the_union_message_us/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier>
>>
>> in February. He will propose to pay for it by raising federal taxes on
>> cigarettes and other tobacco products. ****
>>
>> “The president has made clear that he is willing to compromise and do
>> tough things to reduce the deficits, but only in the context of a package
>> like this one that has balance and includes revenues from the wealthiest
>> Americans and that is designed to promote economic growth,” said a senior
>> administration official, who, like others, declined to be identified
>> confirming details about the coming budget. ****
>>
>> “That means,” the official added, “that the things like C.P.I. that
>> Republican leaders have pushed hard for will only be accepted if
>> Congressional Republicans are willing to do more on revenues.”****
>>
>> --
>> Jim Devine /  "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own
>> way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante. ****
>>
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>> ** **
>>
>> --
>> Robert Naiman
>> Policy Director
>> Just Foreign Policy
>> www.justforeignpolicy.org
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>> [email protected]****
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and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.
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