I got the impression from the article (I know squat about India, except
from restaurant menus) that the tribes were of a different
ethnicity/religion. So 'indigenous' in a relative sense, though I realize
that's nonsensical.

More to the point, there seems to be something of an anarchist thing (in
the sense of mutual aid) going on, as a parallel government and economy are
fostered in the Naxalite-controlled areas.




On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Anthony D'Costa
<[email protected]>wrote:

> I haven't read the Roy article but she is right (though I wouldn't use the
> word indigenous, who is not in India?) What she probably means is tribal
> communities. Certainly the movement is against the Indian state but I am
> unclear why against the Hindu majority because that would make the enemy
> rather hard to identify in India. May be it is the landlords (the original
> Naxalite began with that) and upper castes in elite India, which is also
> part of the Indian state. I guess should read the Roy article. But like the
> Sendero Luminoso in Peru there are mixed stories of terror by the state and
> by the Maoists and often poor villagers are caught between them. It is also
> not clear what ideology is driving this uprising unlike the previous Naxal
> movement (which in its radical version was "annihilation of the class
> enemy"). But the middle class base of this movement after the initial
> peasant/tribal uprising in the cities such as Kolkata in an environment of
> state repression dissolved the movement. Though there is certainly some
> continuity in today's Maoist movement in India, I think the class
> composition of the movement is very different with a very different agenda
> and definitely in a rapidly changing India in an uneven way.
>
> Anthony
>
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Max Sawicky <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> From the Roy article, it seems to basically be a movement of indigenous
>> peoples with some student support against the Indian state and Hindu
>> majority. is that accurate?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:40 AM, Anthony D'Costa <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's an early history of the Naxalite movement, which began in
>>> Naxalbari in north Bengal and initially was a land dispute between local
>>> tribals and non-tribals. It spread as a middle class urban student movement
>>> as well in the 1960s and 1970s West Bengal.
>>>
>>> India's Simmering Revolution: The Naxalite Uprising
>>>
>>> by Sumanta Banerjee
>>>
>>> And the "Naxalite Movement: A study of the genesis, growth, and decline
>>> of a communist movement 1967-1972 (1974)"
>>>  by Biplab Dasgupta
>>>
>>> The movement has evolved and spread to other parts and it is far more
>>> grassroots today and certainly related to contemporary changes in a
>>> neoliberal India.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Chuck Grimes <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes it's long and worth it. I had no idea who or what the Naxalites
>>>> were,
>>>> are. Now I do at least to the extent covered by the essay. It reminded
>>>> me
>>>> some of Che Guevara's notes going into Bolivia, except the people
>>>> encountered in this essay were a lot more advanced with their projects.
>>>>
>>>> I had to google a lot just to get some idea of the geography, where in
>>>> India, and how much territory was involve. That was a shock.
>>>>
>>>> It took some time this afternoon thinking about it. Yes, I do remember a
>>>> story here and there. I very vaguely remember an AJE story about them
>>>> and
>>>> looked it up. It was Imran Garda, India's Silent War.
>>>>
>>>> It's not very good. He went into an area with a camera crew and started
>>>> with
>>>> the local military so his view was automatically slanted. I re-watched
>>>> it
>>>> and about 4/5ths of the way into the piece he realizes that he really
>>>> doesn't know what he is doing and more or less gives up and leaves the
>>>> story
>>>> as an enigma. I remember it again and what I thought. Just another lost
>>>> indigenous people dying out under the wave of development. The piece
>>>> ended
>>>> on a dark note.
>>>>
>>>> That isn't at all what the Arnundhati Roy's piece depicts. She was by
>>>> herself with a notebook and a camera. She had a lot lower profile and
>>>> could
>>>> more easily hang out.  Pretty much my ideal journalism.
>>>>
>>>> CG
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