I'm guessing that what is "self-marginalizing" kind of depends on what "sober-minded progressives" means.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Tom Walker <[email protected]> wrote: > October 2003: > > The director of a top American spy agency said Tuesday that he believed >> that material from Iraq's illicit weapons program had been transported into >> Syria and perhaps other countries as part of an effort by the Iraqis to >> disperse and destroy evidence immediately before the recent war. >> The official, James R. Clapper Jr., a retired lieutenant general, said >> satellite imagery showing a heavy flow of traffic from Iraq into Syria, >> just before the American invasion in March, led him to believe that illicit >> weapons material ''unquestionably'' had been moved out of Iraq. >> ''I think people below the Saddam Hussein-and-his-sons level saw what was >> coming and decided the best thing to do was to destroy and disperse,'' >> General Clapper, who leads the National Imagery and Mapping Agency, said at >> a breakfast with reporters. >> He said he was providing a personal assessment. But he said ''the obvious >> conclusion one draws'' was that there ''may have been people leaving the >> scene, fleeing Iraq, and unquestionably, I am sure, material.'' A spokesman >> for General Clapper's agency, David Burpee, said he could not provide >> further evidence to support the general's statement. > > > Fast forward to 2013: > > James Clapper: "And this has to do with of course somewhat of a semantic, > perhaps some would say too -- too cute by half. But it is-- there are > honest differences on the semantics of what -- when someone says > "collection" to me, that has a specific meaning, which may have a different > meaning to him." > > President Obama (2010): "He possesses a quality that I value in all my > advisers: a willingness to tell leaders what we need to know even if it's > not what we want to hear." > > Senator Wyden: "One of the most important responsibilities a Senator has > is oversight of the intelligence community. This job cannot be done > responsibly if Senators aren't getting straight answers to direct > questions." > > White House spokesman Jay Carney said Clapper has been “straight and > direct in the answers he’s given," > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:19 AM, c b <[email protected]> wrote: > >> http://peoplesworld.org/the-left-needs-to-stop-self-marginalizing/ >> >> The left needs to stop self-marginalizing >> >> by: Sam Webb >> June 10 2013 >> >> >> * A notion that differences within elite circles on foreign and >> domestic policies is of no strategic or tactical significance. A >> recent example was the sweepingly negative reaction of too many on the >> left to President Obama's speech on the "war on terrorism," a speech >> which in my view - and that of other sober-minded progressives - >> showed some retreat from past policies and provided some openings for >> mass struggle that were not formerly there. >> > > -- > Cheers, > > Tom Walker (Sandwichman) > -- Cheers, Tom Walker (Sandwichman)
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