On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Tom Walker <[email protected]> wrote:

> Say what you will about "human nature" it does seem to me that "the earliest
> customs of people" at least had a healthy regard for limits, however
> mythically and allegorically it was expressed. Capital -- having discovered
> the magic of compound interest and the charm of the exponential function --
> has no use for the old superstitions.

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If the earliest customs had a healthy regard for limits, then why the
stories of Icarus and Prometheus which were/are clearly indicative of
a significant behavioral issue? Shakyamuni would have had no inkling
to renounce great wealth and opulence if it wasn't produced in the
first place. Ecologically, the history of deforestation across the
planet prior to capitalism also points to a desire to overcome,
transform and displace limits. The use of myth, allegory,
metaphysics-theology to rationalize/come-to-terms with such behaviors
goes on with ever greater belligerence in our own time with the
denialists:

Eliason: Senator, we’re going to talk about your book for a minute,
you state in your book which by the way is called The Greatest Hoax,
you state in your book that one of your favorite Bible verses, Genesis
8:22, ‘while the earth remaineth seed time and harvest, and cold and
heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease,’ what
is the significance of these verses to this issue?

Inhofe: Well actually the Genesis 8:22 that I use in there is that ‘as
long as the earth remains there will be seed time and harvest, cold
and heat, winter and summer, day and night,’ my point is, God’s still
up there. The arrogance of people to think that we, human beings,
would be able to change what He is doing in the climate is to me
outrageous. -

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/james-inhofe-says-bible-refutes-climate-change


Bateson took on the Inhofe's of his day [when I was a just a kid]

"The hardest saying in the bible is that of St. Paul, addressing the
Galatians: "God is not mocked," and this saying applies to the
relationship between man and his ecology. It is of no use to plead
that a particular sin of pollution or exploitation was only a little
one or that it was unintentional or that it was committed with the
best intentions. Or that "If I hadn't done it somebody else would
have." The processes of ecology are not mocked.

"On the other hand, surely the mountain lion when he kills the deer is
not acting to protect the grass from overgrazing." [Steps...p. 504]
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