"Charles Brown" <[email protected]> wrote: 
> It is the male supremacist family, private property and the state, 
so-called civilization, that originate about 6,000 years ago , not the 
universe or even the human species. The human species , homo sapiens, 
is at least 40,000 years old. The Bible is picking up the origin of 
domestication of plants and animals ,cities, writing etc, and setting 
it as the origin of world. It is the origin of the written world, like 
that of the Bible. 

Karl Marx wrote: "Ideas do not exist separately from language." and Charles is 
saying 
something similar. Languages are believed to be oral in origin with writing 
making 
them more permanent. 

I think verbally, but also think in terms of physical objects and diagrams. One 
autistic 
writer mentioned that she thinks primarily in visual terms. 

Since we can use written language, or at least a stream of bits to represent 
visual 
information or ideas, it seems safe to look at the scope of ideas as written 
laguage. 

-- 
Ron 

PS Cooking food originated over a million years ago before modern man appeared. 

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