The information on NYC is interesting. Does anyone have information on the 
relative size of merchant & industrial capital within the City at that time?

Carrol

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From: [email protected] 
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Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 12:01 PM
To: Progressive Economics
Cc: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition
Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Slavery and the Making of American Capitalism

On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Louis Proyect <[email protected]> wrote:


        Unfortunately, slavery in the Upper South, where
        cotton was not an economic staple, is barely discussed, even though as
        late as 1860 more slaves lived in Virginia than any other state.


Unadjusted for population, yes, but that doesn't tell us as much about 
slavery's role in local economies. As percentages, the 1860 numbers were: 

South Carolina: 57%
Mississippi: 55%
Alabama: 45%
Florida: 44%
Georgia: 44%
Louisiana: 47%
North Carolina: 33%
Virginia: 31%
etc.

http://www.civil-war.net/pages/1860_census.html


After the outbreak of war, these figures were used for "the Census Office's 
first attempt to map population density" in 1861.

https://www.census.gov/history/www/reference/maps/distribution_of_slaves_in_1860.html

On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Louis Proyect via Marxism 
<[email protected]> wrote:


        'What would New York be without slavery?'"


I imagine Foner, if not Baptist, gets into the economic motives - made pretty 
explicit at the time - behind New York City's secessionist movement?

"[M]uch of New York’s wealth came from its close ties to the South, a fact 
[secessionist Mayor Fernando] Wood emphasized in his message to the Common 
Council: 'With our aggrieved brethren of the Slave States, we have friendly 
relations and a common sympathy.' Much of the South’s cotton exports passed 
through New York, and the city's merchants took 40 cents of every dollar that 
Europeans paid for Southern cotton through warehouse fees, shipping, insurance 
and profits. Cotton — and hence slavery — helped build the new marble-fronted 
mercantile buildings in lower Manhattan, fill Broadway hotels and stores with 
customers, and build block after block of fashionable brownstones north of 14th 
Street. If seceding Southern states formed their own nation, New York merchants 
could expect to lose much of that lucrative trade. Southerners threatened to 
blacklist Northern companies they felt sided too closely with the Union and to 
unilaterally cancel debts owed to Northern merchants. New York's elite — and 
the city’s economy — would be devastated ...


"While business leaders tried to force the city government to boost the chances 
of an independent city and protect their livelihoods, some New Yorkers were 
ready to take bold vigilante actions in support of secession. Leading 
businessmen even hatched a plot — never carried out — to capture the 
government's military property around the city, including ships, forts and the 
vast Brooklyn Navy Yard."


http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/06/first-south-carolina-then-new-york


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