Everyone assumes that there is "time" for their particular "solution" to
take effect. What is your date at which the deaths of six plus millions will
occur? 

I am all for reduced hours -- but merely being for something does not bring
it into existence.

All the "solutions" mentioned in this thread require a radical shift in
political power. The election of a "green" Congress & President and the
overthrow of capitalism are equally improbable in the next few decades.

Statements about the end of humanity merely freeze _all_ action.

Carrol

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Subject: Re: [Pen-l] [Marxism] NYRB review of Naomi Klein

Carrol,

        Yours is an astonishing statement.  If "the predicted global warming
is a given ... " then run-away climate change is a given.
J. E. Lovelock, a distinguished UK scientist has predicted that humanity
will be reduced to a few breeding pairs.  If he's right, and not being
unduly optimistic, it is time to step up the struggle.
        Not sure what you, personally, would put in the box for immediate
ends.  Carbon tax?  Regulations?  But the best thing to include for
immediate ends AND the destruction of capitalism at the same time is
reducing working time.

Gene

On Nov 21, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Carrol Cox <[email protected]> wrote:

> The predicted global warming is a given; we are not going to stop it, with
> either revolution or reform.
> 
> But Shane is being silly when he asserts that this is The End. The damage
> will be huge, but it will not destroy humanity.
> 
> We have room to struggle, both for immediate ends and for the destruction
of
> capitalism.
> 
> It is also highly probable that the 1% take global warming for granted;
they
> just assume they can handle it & to hell with the rest of us.
> 
> A high wall around Manhattan will keep out the rising waters.
> 
> Carrol
> 
> 
> 
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