David Harvey paper on his site (and Michael Roberts) here

http://davidharvey.org/

On Friday, 19 December 2014, <[email protected]> wrote:

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>    4. Fwd: The Year in Film ? CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names
>       the Names (Louis Proyect)
>    5. Fwd: A response to Owen Jones and James Bloodworth on Cuba |
>       Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist (Louis Proyect)
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> From: Tom Walker <[email protected] <javascript:;>>
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> Is there a Santa Claus?
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> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 11:39 AM, <[email protected] <javascript:;>>
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> > "Carrol Cox" <[email protected] <javascript:;>> Wrote
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> > Ron Peterson:  The "simple issues" need to be resolved first.
> >
> > > Huh? What are some of those "simple" issues?
> >
> > What is the objective of studying Economics?
> >
> > What is a good  economic model?
> >
> > What is capitalism?
> >
> > --
> >   Ron
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> From: Robert Naiman <[email protected] <javascript:;>>
> Subject: [Pen-l] Progressive Caucus Statement on Cuba Policy
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> Here's the Progressive Caucus statement. Tweeting & sharing recommended.
> Especially this part:
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> "now it is up to Congress to act. Congress must lift the trade embargo and
> normalize travel"
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> http://ellison.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/progressive-caucus-statement-on-cuba-policy
> Progressive Caucus Statement on Cuba Policy
> Dec 17, 2014
> Press Release
>
> WASHINGTON?Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) Co-Chairs Reps. Ra?l M.
> Grijalva (D-AZ) and Keith Ellison (D-MN) and CPC Peace and Security Task
> Force Chair Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA) released the following statement today
> after President Obama announced a new policy towards Cuba.
>
> ?The United States isolated Cuba for 53 years in a failed attempt to
> promote democracy and freedom. President Obama?s new course recognizes our
> old approach towards Cuba didn?t work.
>
> ?Isolating Cuba separated the people of Cuba and their Cuban-American
> family members, and impaired our ability to build constructive
> relationships in Latin America. By restarting diplomatic relations and
> establishing a new embassy, the U.S. can start conversations on issues like
> commerce and human rights that have been dormant between our nations for
> too long. We applaud President Obama for his bold new approach and welcome
> news that, for the first time, both the U.S. and Cuba will attend the
> Summit of the America?s in 2015.
>
> ?The president has laid out a promising path forward and now it is up to
> Congress to act. Congress must lift the trade embargo and normalize travel
> between our two nations, which are only 90 miles apart. The Congressional
> Progressive Caucus looks forward to working with President Obama and
> members of Congress who want to stabilize relations between the U.S. and
> Cuba.?
> ===
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> Robert Naiman
> Policy Director
> Just Foreign Policy
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> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 02:48:03 +0000 (UTC)
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> "Tom Walker" <[email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote:
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> > Is there a Santa Claus?
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> If there were you would be under perpetual watch and
> some would get large rewards for doing nothing of value.
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> I think that Santa Claus economics would have people giving
> goods and services to others without expecting anything in
> return.
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> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 06:38:09 -0500
> From: Louis Proyect <[email protected] <javascript:;>>
> Subject: [Pen-l] Fwd: The Year in Film ? CounterPunch: Tells the
>         Facts, Names the Names
> To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition
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> I deliberately refrained from attaching the word ?best? to the films
> listed below out of consideration that my personal taste weighed
> heavily. While I would have no problem defending the picks based on
> artistic merit, there is a subjective factor that is probably no more
> arbitrary than that reflected in any other critic?s ?best of? list even
> if they are reluctant to admit that personal taste tilted the scale. I
> can only say that if you have seen and valued films based on my
> recommendations, then you should look for those listed below in local
> theaters or on the Internet.
>
> As a rule of thumb, I probably pay less attention to the visual aspects
> of a narrative film than I do to more conventional dramatic elements
> such as character development and plot. This meant that I had little use
> for a film like ?Mr. Turner?, a work that made it to many ?best of 2014?
> lists on the basis of breathtaking images of the British landscape
> evoking the work of the boring and repulsive artist whose life it was
> celebrating. I could only wonder why Mike Leigh would want to make a
> film about such a man when you are better off going to the museum and
> looking at his paintings. My benchmark for such films was ?Lust for
> Life?, the biopic about Vincent Van Gogh that was co-written by Irving
> Stone, from whose novel the script was adapted, and Norman Corwin. As
> you may know, Norman Corwin wrote and produced 100 radio plays in the
> 1930s and 40s, the medium?s golden age. The only images evoked in those
> classic plays were those that Corwin?s words produced in your mind?s eye.
>
> full: http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/12/19/the-year-in-film/
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> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 12:48:07 -0500
> From: Louis Proyect <[email protected] <javascript:;>>
> Subject: [Pen-l] Fwd: A response to Owen Jones and James Bloodworth on
>         Cuba | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist
> To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition
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> Economics
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> Vexingly but not unexpected, Owen Jones and James Bloodworth used their
> Guardian and Independent columns as bully pulpits against the Cuban
> government. Despite their impeccable left-liberal credentials, their
> commentary left a bad taste in mouth not unlike the one I experienced
> when MSNBC?s Chris Matthews weighed in: ?I just don`t think they are
> going to change their stripes. I think they`re commies. I think they`re
> communists.? Commies. Nice.
>
> I have more respect for Jones, who was on Marxmail briefly when he was
> 16 years old or so, a most precocious lad. Back then he repeated the
> talking points heard across the British left: ?If the working class
> wield no political power, then who does? A privileged layer of
> officials, i.e. bureaucrats. It is they who legislate and enforce law,
> not the working class.? Nothing has changed in the 14 years when he
> wrote this except maybe a softening on bureaucracy, something
> understandable given his loyalty to the British Labour Party?a far cry
> from the heaven-storming sensibility of his adolescence.
>
> full:
>
> http://louisproyect.org/2014/12/19/a-response-to-owen-jones-and-james-bloodworth-on-cuba/
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> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 20:46:07 +0100
> From: "Jurriaan Bendien" <[email protected] <javascript:;>>
> Subject: [Pen-l] David Harvey & Michael Roberts
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> I have written a fairly long wikipedia article on this topic
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendency_of_the_rate_of_profit_to_fall
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> I admit though that I am getting a bit tired of writing ?Marxism for
> dummies? articles.
>
> J.
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