On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Carrol Cox <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Unfair" is a purely social concept, having no abstract (i.e., _real_)
> existence. That makes the commentary below pretty vacuous. Does one have to
> die of starvation or exposure to be "fair"?



Well, "money" is a social concept. "Race" is a social concept. So what?
Believe me, "mere" social concepts have very real consequences (for any
reasonable definition of "real" if you want to be pedantic).
-raghu.






> And in responding to that, remember that "enough" is an empty concept in
> capitalist society. What is "enough" (food, heat, medical care) at 1pm may
> be totally inadequate by 5pm. Hence to survive everyone has to endlessly
> strive for "more."
>
> Carrol
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of raghu
> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 12:25 PM
> To: Progressive Economics
> Subject: [Pen-l] Chris Rock interviewed
>
> Rock never struck me as any kind of radical (unlike another star black
> comedian Dave Chappelle who does strike me as somewhat radical..), but he
> is extremely self-aware and perceptive in matters of race. This interview
> is a very good read throughout.
>
>
> I especially loved this part: "Who actually wants to be called an owner,
> even if you owned a football team? Just the title owner is just so nasty
> and disgusting."
>
> http://www.vulture.com/2014/11/chris-rock-frank-rich-in-conversation.html
>
> ----------------------snip
> Tim Cook, the CEO of Apple, just came out as gay.
>
> Which I think is actually bigger than the football player. Because the
> average person in that locker room is in his 20s. And it’s just not a big
> deal to be around a gay guy — if you’re in your 20s. Whereas Tim Cook is
> around these corporate guys. That is the epitome of a boys’ club. That is
> sexist, ­racist — the least inclusive group of people you’re ever going to
> find. Men who have no problem being called owners. Who actually wants to be
> called an owner, even if you owned a football team? Just the title owner is
> just so nasty and disgusting.
>
> [...]
>
> There have been smart, educated, beautiful, polite black children for
> hundreds of years. The advantage that my children have is that my children
> are encountering the nicest white people that America has ever produced.
> Let’s hope America keeps producing nicer white people.
>
> It’s about white people adjusting to a new reality?
>
> Owning their actions. Not even their actions. The actions of your dad.
> Yeah, it’s unfair that you can get judged by something you didn’t do, but
> it’s also unfair that you can inherit money that you didn’t work for.
>
>
>
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