Interview with Greek Prime Minister Tsipras:
'We Don't Want to Go on Borrowing Forever'
March 07, 2015

In a SPIEGEL interview, Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras discusses planned
reforms, the polarizing effect his government has had on Europe and the
possibility of a "Graccident," Greece's accidental exit from the euro zone.

[...]

SPIEGEL: What about privatizations?

Tsipras: There we do in fact have a different approach. We have to make state
assets usable, but we shouldn't sell everything. Otherwise, the proceeds will
disappear directly into the black hole of debt. Instead, we want to use the
revenues from state-owned companies to shore up social welfare.

SPIEGEL: On Monday, your government will be presenting your first reform
proposals in Brussels, which will then have to be approved by the euro-zone
finance ministers. What is your plan?

Tsipras: We will propose six reforms that are ready for implementation. First:
combating the humanitarian crisis. We want to create an electronic Citizen Smart
Card that can be used to access public services for which applications to seven
authorities had to be made in the past. The needy will also be able to use it to
pay for groceries and electricity. Second: the necessary administration reform
to make the state more efficient. Third: the introduction of a rate payment plan
for tax debts. The fourth reform has to do with tax administration and the fifth
aims at the creation of a politically independent tax council. The sixth is the
creation of a task force for targeted tax audits so as to combat tax evasion in
the middle classes as well.

SPIEGEL: The first point sounds like more spending. How do you intend to finance
it?

Tsipras: We have already presented a draft law in parliament. It corresponds
with our promise to establish social justice. The humanitarian crisis is
collateral damage resulting from the bailout program. Today, 35 percent of
Greeks live beneath the poverty line and 600,000 children don't have enough to
eat, according to UNICEF. We have already received EU funding for the fight
against the humanitarian crisis and I will speak to European Commission
President Jean-Claude Juncker in the coming days to find out if we can receive
additional funds.

SPIEGEL: In the rest of Europe, people are concerned about your plan to allow
Greeks to pay back taxes in up to 100 monthly installments. Are you not
concerned that such a plan will cause tax revenues to dry up completely?

Tsipras: Quite to the contrary. It will create immediate revenues for the state.
At the moment, the tax debt owed by Greeks is increasing by a billion euros each
month. We want to reverse this development. And of course we will not offer this
to people who are capable of paying but want to cheat.

SPIEGEL: What exactly is your proposal to create a tax council about?

Tspiras: It will be a tax authority that is independent of politics. Do you know
how it was in the past? Major companies could call the prime minister here at
Maximos Mansion and the terms would be changed in their favor overnight. That
shall no longer be possible.

SPIEGEL: Do you really believe that will enable to you to force the rich to pay?

Tspiras: Surely you know that there are two Greeces. The one Greece is that of 4
million people who live below the poverty line. You can see the other Greece if
you go out on a summer evening in a Bouzouki nightclub along the coast or if you
go to Mykonos. It is the Greece of the tax evaders and the cheats. We know full
well that many of these bars and restaurants don't issue any receipts. We are
going to be very strict against this Greece.

SPIEGEL: And what makes you so confident of success?

Tsipras: We are forming a task force for targeted checks and its staffing is to
be changed every two months so that it doesn't become corrupt. We have a
minister who is responsible for combatting tax evasion, a former public
prosecutor. An independent organization is to be set up under him that is not
influenced by the political system.

SPIEGEL: That sounds very ambitious at a time when your money is already running
out. In March, you have to pay back just under €4 billion, but you aren't
officially scheduled to receive the next tranche from the bailout program until
the end of April. Will you even manage to get through this month?

Tspiras: I unfortunately have to admit that, during the past 30 days, I have
spent 90 percent of my time negotiating how we can meet deadlines in order to
secure our financing. That is in no way productive or creative. The meeting of
the Euro Group on Feb. 20, when our loan agreement was extended, was an
important step. A decision was made to give us breathing room, but the ECB is
still holding onto the rope that is around our neck.

[...]

full:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/spiegel-interview-with-greek-prime-minister-tsipras-a-1022156.html

The 11-page document sent by Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis to Eurogroup
chief Jeroen Dijsselbloem:
http://www.spiegel.de/media/media-36086.pdf
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