(Very interesting comments on Marxism and ecology from Christian Parenti 
but some disjunctions. He describes himself as influenced by both Jason 
Moore and William Cronon. Moore has written some brilliant stuff over 
the years but I view Cronon as having dubious connections to 
*environmentalism* as opposed to his writings on *ecology*. Suffice it 
to say that Cronon is more interested in how society acts upon nature 
rather than the need to preserve it. When Parenti says that "The deep 
ecology, left-conservationist version of environmentalism is 
fundamentally defeatist", that is the Cronon influence kicking in. A 
while back I wrote to Donald Worster to get his take on Cronon. This is 
his reply--he calls his position closer to "Green Capitalist" than Karl 
Marx.)

Q: What are the limitations to using Marx's work when thinking about 
ecology?

A: The tradition requires more elaboration. Marxism as ecology has a 
bright future ahead of it, if not politically, then at least 
intellectually. We're seeing a renaissance in Marxist thought. This is 
just the beginning, regardless of what you wish to call it: 
eco-socialism, political ecology, ecological Marxism or world ecology, 
as Jason Moore calls it. I am a bit agnostic on the labeling. However, 
the idea of rethinking our place in nature through the Marxist tradition 
is very important.

One of the key things to overcome is this dichotomy between human beings 
and external nature. There is a disagreement between Foster and Moore on 
the importance of this conceptual dichotomy. In some Monthly Review 
articles, nature can appear as distinct, as standing in opposition to 
the social. Moore critiques this nature versus society thinking, calling 
it "the Cartesian-dualism," and he wants to transcend or blast through 
it. And Moore is critical of Foster, who edits MR, for falling back into 
the nature versus society distinction.

Let's be clear about this: It's very dangerous to see human beings as 
outside of something called nature.
Foster has responded that when his language appears to slip into this 
distinction, it is, as it was for Marx, merely a rhetorical concession 
for the sake of clarity. Foster's argument is that it is impossible to 
analyze reality without resorting to abstractions that "temporarily 
isolate" distinct parts of the whole. In other words, critique requires 
abstract - the artificial separation of the whole into component pieces 
for the sake of analysis and critique. But in reality these parts are 
always already dialectically bound up together in the whole. In other 
words, Foster said though he writes of nature on the one hand, and 
society on the other, these are merely strategic, temporary formulations 
and not the real essence of his theory. That is a fair defense on 
Foster's part and he does not actually think through the Cartesian 
dualism. Foster is not a closet conservationist - horror of horrors that 
would be!

But at the same time, Jason Moore's insistence on a different language 
is really important. The temporary abstraction of the nature/society 
distinction is insidious and has a way of pushing us back into the 
Cartesian dualism. Actually getting beyond it, rather than just 
problematizing and complicating it, is a very real and important 
challenge. Let's be clear about this: It's very, very dangerous to see 
human beings as outside of something called nature. If that's the basis 
from which one begins, then the conclusion is almost automatically 
Malthusian. If nature is this pristine Other being victimized by Man, 
then the solution is for humans to leave. Sadly, that notion is at the 
heart of most American environmentalism. Just look at the misanthropic 
politics of deep ecology. That sort of politics is not appealing to most 
people. The average person on the planet is not going to get behind a 
political movement that tells people, "You are the problem!"

Also, that position isn't fair to the entire historical record. There 
are many examples of people increasing biological diversity rather than 
decreasing it. Native American burning of the landscape is a perfect 
example. Anthropogenic fire in North America increased biological 
diversity. World history is full of such examples. Actually, for more on 
this, check out the new book The Social Lives of Forests edited by 
Kathleen Morrison and Susan Hecht. Of course, we know lots more about 
the many infamously destructive, life-limiting impacts of humans upon 
the environment. Even before the Industrial Revolution, human beings 
drove extinction processes. Under capitalism, all of that accelerates. 
But that is not our only record. And we can choose as a species to 
emulate the better parts of human history.

We can play a life-creating role or the opposite.
In this regard, Jason Moore insists on talking about the Capitalocene 
rather than the Anthropocene. I am down with that, but following from 
David R. Montgomery's book Dirt: The Erosion of Civilizations, I think 
there's a strong case to be made for the Anthropocene, measured by its 
geological, stratigraphic markers starting 8,000 to 10,000 years ago. 
The key point in all this is human beings are not intruders upon a 
distinct, separate thing called nature. As constituent parts of the 
universal metabolism of nature we, like other species, actively create 
our environment and have done so throughout the entire history of our 
species. We can play a life-creating role or the opposite. Back in the 
late 1980s, Susan Hecht showed how indigenous people in the Amazon 
created biodiversity. They moved plants around. Hunter and gatherer 
societies have done this throughout the world.

Anthropogenic fire has long played an important role in the universal 
metabolism of nature. It was our ancestor Homo erectus that tamed fire, 
used it to cook, and most likely to shape the landscape either 
intentionally or by mistake. Homo sapiens have used fire on a vast 
scale. Native Americans and pastoralist societies in southern Africa 
used fire to create fecund, hunt easier, open forests and grazeable 
grasslands. A lot of this goes back to William Cronon's first book 
Changes in the Land in which he examined the environmental history of 
New England before and just after White settlement. Pre-contact New 
England was not some sort of pristine, natural place. Native Americans 
didn't necessarily tread lightly in the region. No, in fact, indigenous 
people throughout North America had a robust and quite aggressive role 
in shaping the ecosystem. Some communities would burn the landscape 
twice a year. This created edge habitat meadows amidst forests, the 
ideal environment for deer.

This wasn't a mild intervention. It was aggressive and transformative, 
but it was also productive in the sense that it created more 
biodiversity and more life. Even if there are more examples of humans 
diminishing biodiversity, it's important to acknowledge that is not the 
only role we have played as a species. Neil Smith called the human 
contribution, social nature. Jason Moore calls it the oikeios. The deep 
ecology, left-conservationist version of environmentalism is 
fundamentally defeatist. If nature is the pristine other and we humans 
are intruders, then the implied solution is get rid of human beings. If 
that's the case, then "be the change you want to see" and kill yourself.

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