I don't, for example, see how they could stop importing oil in less than eight to twelve years. I can see Greece completely off fossil fuels in fifteen years, which is an eyeblink in energy infrastructure terms. But that is a hell of a long time in human terms to be miserable. Also where do they get the capital for those infrastructure changes? I mean they do have sufficient iron ore and an iron mining industry. They have a steel industry too, but I don't know if it is big enough to turn the amount of ore into steel they would need to make that transformation. I know a few things they could do right away that would help. But someone would have do the analysis I've done for energy for agriculture, and for all the major industries an economy needs to survive. BTW here is an example of how something is pretty straightforward that still is devasting in the transition. Greece definitely has the land and the farmers and the resources for fertilizer and such (especially if they go organic) to be food self-sufficient within a year. But they are next importers of food because they have been unable to compete with the EU farmers and (to a lesser extent) the heavily subsidized US farmers. So if they couldn't import food, how would people eat while they waited for crops to grow? Thats only a year wait, but a year without food? The thing is, I'll bet that is solvable. Maybe a vegan diet for year would feed everybody on the current crops, or a vegan except for fish diet plus an increase in fishing. Somewhere in Greece, I'll bet there is someone who knows the answer, and I hope the Greek government is in contact with her.
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 6:21 PM, nathan tankus < [email protected]> wrote: > > I think you're right Louis. I've been a little stuck on writing this up in > part 3 of my operational issues series but this is basically my point. > > I have the input-output data for Greece. I would love if someone could use > the data to prove that a Grexit is economically viable. To the extant that > it is viable it will be because of the extreme cooperation of the Troika. > Not sure people want to put their eggs in that basket. > -- > -Nathan Tankus > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l > > -- Facebook: Gar Lipow Twitter: GarLipow Solving the Climate Crisis web page: SolvingTheClimateCrisis.com Grist Blog: http://grist.org/author/gar-lipow/ Online technical reference: http://www.nohairshirts.com
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