A response only to the word, "sectarian." As a slur, the word is empty --
utterly meaningless.

But it does (or can) have a useful sense: A sect is an organization defined
by the ideas it holds. To be sectarian is to focus on ideas in abstraction
from actuality.

Now, that is not a mere slur because there _are_ contexts in which 'reality'
or 'actuality' is impervious to action. In such periods (usually
recognizable only in retrospect) in which anti-capitalism and/or the hope to
overcome capitalism, has not immediate material ground. Ideas (or, if you
will, dogma) keep something alive through the night. That was pretty much my
condition from 1990 (collapse of LRS) to 2001, when 9/11 reignited anti-war
activity, and with it the hope, however slight, that organized activity
might be meaningful. Though we have experienced only defeats in the
following years, activity has stumbled along. Isolated ideas, in such a
period, are mere egotism. Any serious (anti-capitalist) leftist belongs to
_some_ sort of organization; is engaged, however unsuccessfully in organized
efforts to change the world. There is no room now for sectarianism.

Carrol

(Incidentally, I respond only to what appears on the list and rarely if ever
click on a link. I don't, for example, have the slightest idea of what was
the content of a post from Lou with a subject line referring to "The Left"
and affirming that that abstraction "sucks.")

The period after 1975 was such  a period when _nothing_ leftists could do
could make any difference. (Marx recognized such periods; see the opening
paragraph  on the working day in Capital.) Lou's blog, however, by its name,
seems to assume we are still in such a period when there is no Left, when
leftists are helpless to affect events, and Marxists can only remain lonely
(unrepentant) keepers of The Flame.

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Lars Lih and Lenin's April Theses | Louis Proyect

Always quick to label someone sectarian, L.P. links to his post that is
sectarian to the maximum. He argues by quotations, does nothing to establish
that his snippets are not selective, and leaves us devoid of materialist
analysis of the economy under tsarism.

"The problem in Russia was industrialization. It was obvious by comparison
with England, Germany, France, and so on. In 1917 there were three million
workers among a population of 145 million. The working class was
concentrated in large factories (one thousand workers or more) to a greater
degree than the United States. Still, eight out of ten people were peasants,
and 30,000 large landowners exploited them. The capitalist class was
incapable of leading a revolution against the tsar, hoping instead to win a
place alongside the land-based aristocrats in a reformed monarchy. Then
industrialization could proceed over a span of fifty years, similar to Japan
after the so-called Meiji Restoration. 
Although a few tsarist officials were of similar mind, notably the
police-state expert Peter Stolypin, the regime did not budge. The working
class made the 1917 revolution and proceeded to tackle industrialization run
by the working class for the benefit of the working people." (The Hollow
Colossus, p. 167f.)

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