On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Marv Gandall <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Dec 7, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Patrick Bond <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Marv, reports I'm getting - e.g. from Bolivia's former UN ambassador
> Pablo Solon (below) - are the contrary: elites gathered in Paris at the
> Conference of Polluters 21 are not willing to seriously consider phase-out.
> Not just in the North, especially in the BRICS, where the carbon-pricing
> process moves next:
> http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/04/climate-change-casino-carbon-trading-reborn-in-new-generation-mega-polluters/
>
> Interesting links. Thanks, Patrick. Of course, the bourgeoisie is not
> monolithic; as always, there are sectoral, geographic, and other divisions
> within it. The major extractors, polluters, and commodity producing nations
> are generally opposed to any meaningful curbs on emissions,



Actually even the major extractors may be coming around:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/even-exxonmobil-says-climate-change-is-real-so-why-wont-the-gop/2015/12/06/913e4b12-9aa6-11e5-b499-76cbec161973_story.html
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No one would confuse the oil and gas giant with the Sierra Club. But if you
visit Exxon’s website <http://corporate.exxonmobil.com/> , you will find
that the company believes climate change is real, that governments should
take action to combat it and that the most sensible action would be a
revenue-neutral tax on carbon — in other words, a tax on oil, gas and coal,
with the proceeds returned to taxpayers for them to spend as they
choose.With no government action, Exxon experts told us during a visit to
The Post last week, average temperatures are likely to rise by a
catastrophic (my word, not theirs) 5 degrees Celsius, with rises of 6, 7 or
even more quite possible.

“A properly designed carbon tax can be predictable, transparent, and
comparatively simple to understand and implement,” Exxon says in a position
paper titled “Engaging on climate change.”
<http://corporate.exxonmobil.com/en/current-issues/climate-policy/engaging/engagement-to-address-climate-change?parentId=039c6ab5-f17b-4183-82d9-439eb752660f#/section/sound-climate-policies>
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