On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Carrol Cox <[email protected]> wrote: > "... and paid family leave = less work hours. Both Bernie and Hillary have > called for this on national TV. " > > This is really pathetic and makes a mockery of the very discussion of > sorter work time. >
Eugene Coyle referred to "reducing the standard of hours of work" at the top of this thread. I read that to mean a reduction in the amount of time workers spent in the service of employers and increase in the amount of leisure and non-work time. So yes, increased vacation time does indeed mean "shorter work time". How does it not? Why exactly is that pathetic and in what way is it a "mockery" of the very discussion? This is argument by assertion at its finest. As I stated earlier in this thread, I am fully convinced by the arguments for shorter work times. But to repeat myself from earlier in the thread, what then? The "campaign for a 20 hour work week" is a slogan not a political movement. In contrast, a campaign for paid sick leave is not a mere slogan. http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/20/news/economy/paid-sick-leave/index.html Yes, it is a small campaign with very modest ambitions. But at least it is real and there are many more like that. You can either learn about these campaigns and think about how to build on them, or you can mock and disparage them and keep fantasizing about a perfect mass movement that exists only in your imagination. Your choice. -raghu. > Retirement equals shorter work time. > > Sick leave equals shorter work time. > > Unemployment equals shorter work time. > > This makes a mockery of discussion as such. It is really pathetic. > > Shorter work time can only mean that _everyone_, all the time, works fewer > hours. (Probably around 20 hours per week is the tipping point into a > damaged human life. For the first 200K or so of human life the work week > was zero. Labor did not exist prior to the fall into agriculture. >
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