On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Carrol Cox <[email protected]> wrote:

> To say, "X is a Science,"  is meaningless, since there are a number of
> conflicting understandings of what "science" and "scientific method" are!
> Science is not a bundle of facts, since no facts exist except as they are
> brought out by one or another theory. Theory is necessarily a precondition
> for recognizing a fact.
>



That's true but I wouldn't go so far as to declare that "X is a Science" is
ALWAYS meaningless. With context and clarification, it can be made a
perfectly meaningful assertion. Charles, however, fails to do this.

In practice, many claims of the form "X is a Science" turn out to be rather
pathetic attempts to claim the authority and prestige of the natural
sciences for one's favorite beliefs. Charles' attempt here to claim such
intellectual prestige for Marx by making silly comparisons to Einstein and
Newton is a great example of this.
-raghu.







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>  "Charles Brown" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
> >So, as a SCIENCE, Marxism has basic principles , theories and laws ( see.
> _Capital_  ) that are rigorously adhered to by MARXISTS. This does _ not_
> make Marxists's politics a religion, but rather it is critical to it being
> a science.
>
> Marx held that his method was best understood from Capital and he held
> that his method was the scientific method. Since Marx was making a model of
> the
>
> capitalist economy he had to be careful at what was the most basic
> components
>
> of the economy. He didn't choose gold, energy, or land, he chose labor
> time.
>
>
> --
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>    Ron
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