> On Mar 13, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Louis Proyect <l...@panix.com> wrote:
> 
> On 3/13/16 7:22 PM, Marv Gandall wrote:
>> No need to fast forward, Jim. Thomas’ political trajectory was an
>> outgrowth of the antipathy between the reformist and the
>> revolutionary left which, as we know, was evident in the 1930’s and
>> well beyond, predating their formal split into two rival
>> Internationals following WWI. As a social democrat, Thomas came into
>> conflict with the Communist Party and the smaller Trotskyist movement
>> on ideological and practical grounds since all three political
>> currents were competing with varying degrees of influence for the
>> same working class constituency.
> 
> People have strange ideas about Norman Thomas. You need to read "Not 
> Automatic", Sol Dollinger's book about the Flint sit-down strike. Thomas 
> saw eye to eye with the left wing of the SP that had considerable 
> strength in the area, including Genora Johnson. In terms of him voting 
> to expel the Trotskyists, if I had been around back then, I would have 
> voted for booting them. Anybody with political experience would no that 
> they were simply on a raiding party. The idea of building a purely 
> revolutionary party based on some "program" (namely a bunch of ideology 
> cobbled together from various holy texts) is bunkum as Henry Ford put 
> it. For better or for worse, revolutionary parties are never pure. They 
> will always include a right faction because that reflects the realities 
> of class composition in the proletariat. Lenin battled with Julius 
> Martov worse than fights I've had with people on the Internet but always 
> considered the Bolsheviks and Mensheviks as belong to the same party. 
> Pham Binh and Lars Lih got that right, whatever else they got wrong and 
> that's aplenty.
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