Dear Michael P:
Sorry about this. I did refrain from cross-posting this from LBO as I thought it 
redundant. But I see all the LBO-ers just crossposting. So a tiny bit of Tariq's 
self-justification, I feel could be made a little more clear with regard to Tariq's 
political history on entryism.
Cheers, H
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Hello Doug:
Anyway, perhaps regarding my comments on the ex-Black Dwarfer Labour Entryist 
manifestation of a Younger Rebel, Tariq Ali says this:
(4) I feel exactly the same regarding our local war-monger Tony Blair. I am for his 
defeat, despite the backing he has received from
the labour movement. If a Liberal-Democrat candidate can defeat a pro-war New Labour 
ghoul, then I will vote for the Liberal-Democrats,
despite their Kerry-like weaknesses. The reasons are the same. Politicians who deserve 
to be tried as war-criminals should not be elected."
REPLY:
Well this is very noble indeed. I too would agree that war-criminals should be held 
accountable & not at all lauded.
I think however that his shaft misses any target.
The situation in the UK, is exactly the same as here in that the whole point is to 
build an alternative party of the broader left, in a principled manner. I think the 
task in the USA is even more urgent, exactly because it is the heart-land of imperial 
might.
In both countries voting for the "Liberal Democrats" (UK) or the Kerry Democrats - 
does not assist that task.
By the way, I note that he thinks that it would be worth voting in the uK for the 
Lib-Dems only:
"If a Liberal-Democrat candidate can defeat a pro-war New Labour ghoul".
And if it is less likely to defeat the New Labour Ghoul? What does he do with his 
vote? Vote New Labour?

My comments about Tariq's Entryism when he was in an explicitly Trotskyist phase, are 
relevant in this manner: He eschews any but the apparently easiest cosying up to the 
most shameless forces.
Again: It was this shameless opportunism, that assisted [I do of course realise there 
were other objective forces moving to this end - One can hardly blame the little old 
Tariqian-IMG for all that followed alone!] the forces of Thatcher, & then Blair.

An older generation of activists more overtly influenced by (and un-ashamed to say so) 
of Lenin had a word for this type of behaviour: "opportunism". You will call all this 
un-adulterated 'Stalinism.'

That would be a pity on a lot of levels.
I wish all the members of this list who reside in the USA many good wishes & sincere 
solidarity as they watch the polls.
I wish them also a future alternative to the non-choice they face now.

But I want them to tell me how that is to be built.

I cannot hear anyone proposing - in midst of the attack & counter-attack on the 
election right now, any sensible strategy.
I may have missed it as the shoes, mud, horse-manure & saucepans fell across the 
debating floor.
Cheers,
Hari

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