----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
David wrote: I would suggest that this is problematic, because while it would be democratic for current workers to agree to tax themselves to transfer assets to the currently retired, it is anti-democratic to bind future generations to tax themselves to transfer funds to the current workers when the current workers retire. =============================== Which is what I was talking about earlier; how the heck did we arrive at a point where this became a commonplace, even a rational thing to say in public? David, would you agree that, Carl's biblical references aside, there is in almost all traditions that we have any evidence of, evidence that there was a duty to support the elderly? Speaking to you as a conservative, how likely do you think it is that literally all previous generations have been wrong and we are the first to realise the truth; that it is fine and OK to let the unproductive old starve? dd ===================== I'd suggest we even go a bit deeper than this and ask further if it's moral for an older generation to leave a planet in far worse shape than it was when they came to have the ability to change it for better/worse with the choices they've made and refuse their children and grandchildren the possibility of undoing the very institutional/cognitive/emotive frameworks/infrastructure that preclude taking substantive steps towards dealing with the problem[s]? "The pure conservative is fighting against the essence of the universe" [A.N. Whitehead]
