but if we workers support our elders, that will reduce the supply of labor to 
Wal-Mart! if we support our children, who will make the artificial flowers to sell at 
the street-corner? By supporting these non-workers, do not we encourage them to become 
dependent on our help? 
 
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine 

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From: PEN-L list on behalf of paul phillips
Sent: Fri 11/5/2004 8:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Social Security



David's posts are exactly why I insist that the left must have a moral
compass and not the neolib compass of personal gain.  It is my moral
obligation to provide for my parents/grand parents who not only brought
me into this world but raised me, paid for my upbringing and education
and for the infrastructure that I now enjoy. But also I have a moral
obligation to pay for those who were less fortunate than myself, for
whatever reason.  I feel a particular obligation to my children and
grandchildren to provide them with the education and social capital they
need and try to restore the environment to a sustainable condition so
that they can enjoy the fruits of nature and human design, and also help
to maintain me and our generation at a confortable material and cultural
level.  Without that moral compass, we are mere beasts, sans humanite!
That, to my mind, is the meaning of being 'left'!

Paul Phillips

Eubulides wrote:

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David B. Shemano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Again, to generalize, I distinguish capital investments (roads, schools,
>bridges, military, etc.) and other types of public goods which have
>cross-generational benefits.  The costs of public goods that have
>cross-generational benefits should be shared with future generations,
>which would justify deficit spending.  I would not put generational
>monetary transfers into that category.
>
>David Shemano
>
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>
>So parents should leave no bequests?
>
>Such is the insidiousness of the comparative statics of neoclassical
>micro............
>
>
>

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