MSNBC also mentioned the 90,000 votes which are higher than registration
levels in one Ohio county, probably using a source like the following:

  http://pages.ivillage.com/americans4america/id20.html

What more could one need?  Kerry may or may not be a "hero" in killing
Vietnamese, but certainly not in the fight for democracy.  (He was even
quite relaxed, smiling in conceding -- like 'got u').

Paul Z.

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On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Paul Zarembka wrote:

> Go for it!  MSNBC 'Countdown' tonight was on election fraud.  E.g., it
> reported 29 elections results in Florida overwhelming reporting Bush votes
> with overwhelming Democratic registrations!  It gave 5 examples with
> numbers on the screen.  All 29 had used Diebold scanners!
>
> 'Countdown' also mentioned Ohio issues, altho not Diebold computers. I
> think it will be continued tomorrow night (8 Eastern).
>
> Ranking House Minority Judiciary Committee Member Conyers stated on the
> program that he could not say the results would not have been affected if
> they counting were honest (but he also noted that his leader had already
> conceded).
>
> Bottom line: the issue has gone mainstream, Kerry or no Kerry.
>
> Paul Z.
>
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>
> On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
>
> > John Kerry and the Democratic Party elite abjectly conceded and want
> > you to stand down in the interest of getting on with the bipartisan
> > program of making Iraq safe for foreign investors and making the rich
> > richer and the poor poorer in America -- but we shouldn't.  If we
> > cannot stand up for the most basic of democratic rights -- voting
> > rights, especially of Black, Latino, and other working-class voters
> > -- we are not capable of winning anything better, such as the end to
> > the Iraq War and establishment of single-payer universal health care.
> >
> > Bob Fitrakis, the editor of the Free Press, writes: "[U]nofficial
> > results showed Bush with 136,483 more votes than Kerry, although
> > 155,428 provisional ballots, 92,672 'spoiled' ballots, additional
> > overseas ballots, and some remaining absentee ballots remained
> > uncounted.  The day after his concession, Kerry drew 3,893 votes
> > closer to Bush when a computerized voting machine 'glitch' was
> > discovered in an Ohio precinct. A machine in ward 1B in the
> > predominantly Republican Gahanna, Ohio, recorded 4,258 votes for
> > George W. Bush when only 638 people cast votes at the New Life Church
> > polling site" ("None Dare Call It Voter Suppression and Fraud,"
> > November 7, 2004,
> > <http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/983> and
> > <http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Nov2004/Fitrakis1108.htm>).
> >
> > Most importantly, "[s]poiled ballots will only be counted if someone
> > with standing, such as five Kerry electors or the Ohio Democratic
> > Party, demands and legally qualifies for a recount" (Fitrakis,
> > <http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/983> and
> > <http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Nov2004/Fitrakis1108.htm>).
> >
> > Call upon the Ohio Democratic Party, Kerry electors, the Ohio Green
> > Party, and David Cobb electors to demand a recount.  Make them fight
> > for voting rights!
> >
> > Make them do it, even if you think (as I do) that Kerry would be no
> > better than Bush on big issues like the Iraq War and single-payer
> > universal health care.  Why?  Because if the recount throws Ohio to
> > Kerry, it makes the next President a man who won the electoral
> > college but did not win the popular vote, which will weaken the
> > executive branch by denying it the illusion of popular consent and
> > legitimacy; and even if the recount doesn't change the outcome, your
> > demand will send the Democrats and Republicans a message that you
> > won't obey their order to keep quiet about the reign of plutocrats
> > who continue to assign crappy voting machines to Black, Latino, and
> > other working-class precincts that make more of working-class votes
> > spoil than votes of the rich white voters.
> >
> > The Ohio Democratic Party Contact Information:
> >
> > Dennis White, Chair
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 614-221-6563 x128 (voice)
> >
> > Dan Trevas, Communications Director
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 614-221-6563 x129 (voice)
> >
> > Hanna Greer, Executive Director
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 614-221-6563 x100 (voice)
> >
> > Address: 271 E. State St. Columbus, Ohio 43215
> > Phone: 614-221-6563 (voice)
> > 614-221-0721 (fax)
> > <http://www.ohiodems.org>
> >
> > The Democratic National Committee Contact Information:
> > <http://democrats.org/contact/>
> >
> > The Green Party of Ohio Contact Information:
> > <http://www.ohiogreens.org/contactlist.html>
> >
> > The Green Party of the United States Contact Information:
> > <http://www.gp.org/>
> >
> > Cobb/LaMarche '04 Contact Information:
> > <http://www.votecobb.org/contact>
> >
> > Cf.  Greg Palast, "An Election Spoiled Rotten," November 2, 2004:
> > <http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1102-28.htm>
> > "CNN Just Changed Their Ohio Exit Poll Page":
> > <http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1293911>
> > Thom Hartmann, "The Ultimate Felony Against Democracy," November 4,
> > 2004: <http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1104-38.htm>
> > Greg Palast, "Kerry Won," November 4, 2004:
> > <http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1104-36.htm>
> >
> > Saturday, November 13, 2004, 1-4 PM
> > Public Hearing on Election Irregularities and Voter Suppression
> >
> > We are calling on anyone who experienced or observed election
> > irregularities or voter suppression this election season to come to
> > give testimony at a public hearing before public officials, community
> > representatives and the media. Your stories will be documented,
> > recorded and put into a report and formal complaint to the Board of
> > Elections. If you have any information about election irregularities
> > please participate. New Faith Baptist Church, 955 Oak St., Columbus,
> > Ohio, 43205.
> >
> > Contact: call 253-2571 or email <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for more information.
> > Sponsored by Citizen's Alliance for Secure Elections, the CICJ,
> > League of Pissed Off Voters, Election Protection Coalition, Common
> > Cause, WVKO Radio.
> > --
> > Yoshie
> >
> > * Critical Montages: <http://montages.blogspot.com/>
> > * Greens for Nader: <http://greensfornader.net/>
> > * Bring Them Home Now! <http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/>
> > * OSU-GESO: <http://www.osu-geso.org/>
> > * Calendars of Events in Columbus:
> > <http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/calendar.html>,
> > <http://www.freepress.org/calendar.php>, & <http://www.cpanews.org/>
> > * Student International Forum: <http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/>
> > * Committee for Justice in Palestine: <http://www.osudivest.org/>
> > * Al-Awda-Ohio: <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Al-Awda-Ohio>
> > * Solidarity: <http://www.solidarity-us.org/>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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