*       From: "Devine, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

There is? You could have fooled me. It's all illusion, at least
according to the Buddha, if indeed that's what he said.

^^^^^^
CB: And the philosophy ( and I do mean philosophy in the technical sense) of
this movie is even more precisely subjective idealism in that several of the
discussants specifically make some kind of statement that they are not
talking about "God". They declare some form of atheism. So, this is a
subjective idealism without God.


"When you ain't lookin', it's like a wave. When you are lookin', it's like a
particle."
- Fred Alan Wolf, Ph.D

http://www.serenityhealth.com/whatthebleep_descript/whatthebleep_book_of_ble
eps.html




^^^^^
Maybe "ain't lookin'" sends out some kind of organic based radio wave :>)

One formulation of the riddle seems to say that the act of measuring impacts
the object measured. This particular aspect seems to be resolvable according
to ordinary cause and effect principles. There are other aspects of the
discussions of QM that seem to pose a more stubborn puzzle. But can we
dispose of this aspect ? To the extent that the act of measuring impacts and
changes the object of measurement , this would be no great mystery.

^^^^^^^^



Quantum Physics 101: 'What the Bleep...' is a fine intro and a fair film
Friday, November 05, 2004
By John Douglas
The Grand Rapids Press
At last -- a movie about quantum physics.

It's about time, and because quantum physics is one of the most interesting
topics ever, it is difficult to understand why it has taken so long to get a
movie on the screen.

"What the Bleep Do We Know!?" is not the ideal film to kick off what I hope
will be a new genre of movies. "What the Bleep Do We Know!?" begins well but
loses its way halfway through. It's not helped by the fact it had at least
five endings.


  But the film is about quantum physics, and that alone makes it worthwhile.
I must warn purists the quantum physics in "What the Bleep Do We Know!?" is
more the quantum physics of Fritjof Capra (author of "The Tao of Physics")
than that of Werner Heisenberg ("Father of The Uncertainty Principle"). In
other words, this film deals with the spiritual aspects of quantum physics
rather than the hard-core physics and mathematical equations.

Quantum physics is the study of the smallest particles in the universe. In
the level of existence where they hang out, many of the laws of physics are
null and void. Hence, the quantum world invites spiritual and mystical
interpretations about what is happening.

And that's all right with me. Some of that stuff is great fun, and it tends
to open the mind to the wonder of it all.

The film stars Marlee Matlin as Amanda, a professional photographer who
seems to be mad at the world. She apparently had been hurt in her life, and
she is letting it have a negative effect on her. As her drama is played out,
we hear from a host of scientists who talk about quantum physics and
reality. One of the scientists is the gadfly of quantum physics, Fred Alan
Wolf. Wolf wrote "Spacetime and Beyond," my introduction to quantum physics.
He got me hooked.

The film moves from the quantum level to more of the world of biology and
chemistry of the human body, which, while kind of interesting, is not as
well presented as the quantum physics. The film bogs down when Amanda goes
to photograph a wedding, and the film becomes involved in addiction and what
causes it.

In fact, this film easily could be cut down to a half hour, which would have
made it more evenly enjoyable. Still, if you know nothing about quantum
physics, it would be perfectly all right to get your feet wet here. I know
purists wince at those words, but I say any level of entry into this
fascinating world is better than nothing.

I have been studying it for a number of years, and I don't begin to
understand much about it. But what I do grasp is so absolutely wonderful
that I don't care it is taking me a long time. Those moments of
understanding are magical.





C 2004 Grand Rapids Press. Used with permission





Kim Ode: More than meets eye? Stuff for thought in confusion of 'Bleep'
Kim Ode,  Star Tribune
November 20, 2004 ODE1120
 http://www.whatthebleep.com/reviews/startribune.htm



There's a bit of marketing genius behind the low-budget indie movie, "What
the Bleep Do We Know?" Because: You see the movie. You come out dying to
talk about it with friends, but you can't unless they've seen it, so you
urge them to go. They repeat the process: seeing, dying, urging.

Bleeping brilliant.

It's one reason the movie has sold more tickets than any other this year at
the Edina Cinema, and why, despite being ignored by Hollywood's honchos,
it's being held over for weeks, and even months, in theaters nationwide.

But the geniuses forgot one thing: to come up with a way to describe this
exceedingly weird movie. You begin with the obvious. It's a movie about
quantum physics. Right away, you sense trouble. But there's more.

There's a Polish wedding. And scenes about body image, ice crystals, anxiety
and the power we have to create our own reality. Also, the power of mixed
drinks, especially at a Polish wedding. Plus, there are some cartoony
Flubber creatures. And scientists!

At this point, your listeners are either edging away or irresistibly
curious. Gary White of Minneapolis was among the latter. He'd heard that the
movie was about the spiritual side of quantum physics and thought "that if
something like that can get on the big screen, I'd check it out." He did,
then saw it a second time with a friend. And then again with another.

White, 68, is an electrical engineer by background and a retired software
businessman by trade. He's studied miracles and religion, but also is
intrigued by the science of brain imaging, in which the brain "lights up"
differently when feeling pleasure or pain. "That's where the movie struck a
chord," White said. Brain research shows how we're driven chemically, "that
we're more than just this 'freewill' stuff."

OK, some of you may be wondering right about now what the bleep you're doing
still reading this. And yet, here you are, just confused enough to pay
attention. Maddening, isn't it? But also kind of surprising? Maybe even
freeing?

Oops -- too far, too fast. But that's how the movie often feels, New Age 101
at warp speed. So consider this a sampling of the movie experience. From the
get-go, it poses questions such as "Who am I?" and "What is reality?" Then
it poses them again. And then once more.

The closest the filmmakers come to an answer is espousing that each of us
has the power to create our own reality. Which is spiritual, right? But
because our brains become wired to think in a certain way, we need to change
our wiring in order to change our reality. In other words, we need to train
our neurons to connect in better ways. Which is science, right? The leap is
to begin thinking of spirit and science as forces that converge, instead of
contradict.

This is not your usual Hollywood movie.

Kim Matthews Jones, 39, said she's still trying to digest the message, but
that the movie struck a particular nerve on the heels of the election. "We
all sort of get caught in the day-to-day thing and feeling that society
functions this way, and that individuals don't have any agency to effect
change," she said. "This movie says, 'Wait a minute, the individual does
have agency to make change -- if you want to.' But if we focus on negative
thoughts, we're going to create negative circumstances."

Matthews Jones, a sculptor in Minneapolis, came to the movie with a
background in transcendental meditation, but still thought "it was a really
weird mix of things." There actually is a conventional "movie" in the movie,
starring Marlee Matlin as a photographer who copes with life by gulping
anxiety pills. Matthews Jones wasn't wild about that part, but figured that
such "eye candy" helps people through the other parts, "like that Ramtha
chick."

I'd explain that, but it would sabotage one of the movie's strategies. The
film is peppered with interviews with a range of people talking about
physics, brain waves, God and how to "create" the day. But their identities
are withheld until the end in an effort to keep viewers focused on the
message instead of the messengers.

Views differ on whether this is an illuminating technique or duplicitous
trickery. But views differ about this whole movie. The
http://www.whatthebleep.com// Web site is full of links and discussions.
Most of the more than 1,700 comments from viewers are swooning, but there
also are those who wonder what the bleep the fuss is all about.

I'm not sure myself. Observers of the cultural scene wonder if there's a
growing market for "weird" movies such as "Super Size Me" or "Fahrenheit
9/11." Or maybe more people are ready to probe such questions. Or maybe
we're simply listening to the urgings of a good friend to see a movie we'd
never dreamed of going to.

Gary White isn't sure, either, but he loves the reactions that the movie
inspires and how it prods people to think rather than just sit back and be
entertained. "Something about it resonates in a person, makes them say,
'Wow, I think there's some truth here I haven't considered before,' " he
said. "But I'd love to talk to someone who hated it!"








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