Re: [PEN-L] stagism

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>>CB: But surely the 2nd and 3rd Internationals discussed history going through _dialectical_, not mechanical, stages.   But , anyway, hasn't the history of the first efforts to build demonstrated that stage skipping is a big problem in some sense.  The roads/train tracks to socialism bypassing capitalism have been pretty rocky. Much of the criticism of the SU is based on the idea that it was a bit underadvanced to carryoff a rev alone, as one country. Stalinism was , in part, the product of heavy feudal residues, etc.<<   Comment   Was the stage skipped capitalism or the industrial system? Is this even a valid question? Is capitalism the industrial system or stage or primarily a property relations?   If Stalinism had never existed and Stalin was never born would European fascism, lead by the German imperial order, still arose? I believe that German led European fascism arose as a political response to Bolshevism - Lenin, not Stalinism.   The point is that I believe that the Stalin era was the inescapable historical phase of industrial development and the Stalinism is the peculiar forms of political compliance.   Stages only exist in back of us in the send that it is kind of hard to see the next stages until the stage you have passed is under transition. Are we at the same stage as the era of Henry Ford and the ascendancy of giantism as industrial production?   Melvin P.