Re: [PEN-L] Long waves

[Devine, James]

The key problem is that the “crisis” is occurring (in terms of the environment, water supplies, immiseration of the world proletariat, etc.) but that since the working class and other potential opposition forces are in Deep Yoghurt, the system will muddle though  for a very long time.   (BTW, I never believed all those Marxists back in the 1970s and 1980s who thought that capitalism was going to end or that the Revolution was coming soon. A lot of those folks have stopped being Marxists, I guess because their predictions turned out to be wrong.) Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine/ From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian McKenna Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 2:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Long waves   In a message dated 12/10/04 4:54:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe, someday, but the day of reckoning keeps getting postponed. Thanks Doug, I remember going to some of those NY Socialist Scholars Conferences in the late 80s and early 90s (when I lived in Philly) and hearing all those sessions by Marxist economists on the immanent fall of capitalism. . .and I remember going to Amherst in 1983 at the Center for Popular Economics and hearing the Sam Bowles crowd talk about the new social structure of accumulation. . .it appears we are in one. . .a neoliberal post-Fordist one marked by a proto-fascist culture. . .but the deeper political economics is something I have to study. . .by reading books by you, Michael (the list manager) and so many others on the list. . .are there 2 good ones beyond your latest? Best, Brian