Charles, you are exactly right.  In my book on Marx's theories of crises, I 
tried to make
the same point.  In a world in which prices bear some resemblance to embodied 
abstract
labor, the process of capitalist accumulation has a degree of rationality.  
Once you let
what Jonathan calls power and I would call fictitious value enter into the 
scheme, the
system runs amok until crises establish more of a link between prices and the 
underlying
values, and the cycle begins again.

On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 10:50:12AM -0500, Charles Brown wrote:
> "Perelman, Michael" :
> Two observations.  1. I have mentioned here several times that we have no
> way of calculating the abstract labor values of already installed constant
> capital unless we have a scientific means of measuring depreciation.
>
> ^^^^
> CB: Can we say that Marx's version of capital portrays it  as more rational
> than it really is ? The idea that capital is organized based on
> expropriation of values based on labor time gives the capitalists too much
> credit, attributes to them too much rationality.
>
>  Seems like capital really _is_ embezzlement. Bubbles are typical, not
> exceptional. The bezzle rules. The "architecture" of capital is literally,
> not figuratively, that of the casino.
>
> Capitalism is worse than Marx said it is.
>
>
>

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