It is, but I believe that Rumsfeld harkens from Kenilworth, a lakeside 'burb 
where the Scots sneer at the WASPs. 
 
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine 

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From: PEN-L list on behalf of Michael Perelman
Sent: Mon 2/7/2005 4:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [PEN-L] More incendiary talk from Churchill



I did not know that Cicero was in the North of Chi.

On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 04:56:16PM -0800, Devine, James wrote:
> When I was young and lived in the suburbs North of Chicago, the father
> of a friend belonged to an informal group of rich men who admired Gen.
> Patton, Gen. MacArthur, and Churchill. Among others, then-Congressman
> Rumsfeld was part of this group.
>
> Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> web: http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine/
>
> >
> > I found a good one too:
> >
> > "I do not understand this squeamishness about the use of gas. I am
> > strongly
> > in favour of using [it] against uncivilised tribes."
> >
> > Winston Churchill, Secretary of State, British War Office, 1919,
> > authorising
> > use of chemical weapons against Iraqis.. in the first of 6 invasions
> > of Iraq
> > by agents of Anglo Iranian Oil (British Petroleum) in the last 100
> > years.
> >
> >  http://www.worldofquotes.com/author/Winston-Churchill/1/index.html
> >
> >
> > So now we know where the WMD threat originated:  "Chemical Winston."
> >
> > mbs
> >
> > Counterpunch, February 7, 2005
> > Dogs in the Manger
> > Warning: More Hate Speech from W. Churchill
> >
> > By MICKEY Z
> >
> > Alert O'Reilly...send word to both the limo liberals and the Soldier
> > of
> > Fortune crowd...Pataki, Zahn, and Hannity take note...we have
> > another
> > repugnant quote from W. Churchill:
> >
> >      "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to
> > the
> > manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do
> > not
> > admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong
> > has been
> > done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia.
> > I do
> > not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact
> > that a
> > stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put
> > it that
> > way, has come in and taken their place."
> >
> > Oops...my bad. That wasn't Ward Churchill who said that. It was
> > Winston
> > Churchill. Sir Winston Churchill. The man U.S. News and World Report
> > called
> > "The Last Hero." The legend who also said this: "I am strongly in
> > favor of
> > using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes." The icon/terrorist
> > who asked
> > British scientists to cook up "a new kind of weather" for the
> > citizens of
> > Dresden.
> >
> > Do you think the good folks at Hamilton College would get any death
> > threats
> > if they invited Sir Winston to give a talk?
> >
> > Mickey Z. is the author of four books, most recently: "The Seven
> > Deadly
> > Spins: Exposing the Lies Behind War Propaganda" (Common Courage
> > Press). He
> > can be found on the Web at http://www.mickeyz.net.
> >
> > --
> >
> > www.marxmail.org

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