Re: [PEN-L] Schiavo, Wedge issues, Disabled Rights

[adrienne lauby]

I'll try to resolve the difference between these ways of assessing
this particular brain.  In the meantime, how about a deep breath
and appreciation of all we don't know about the brain?  I have
it from an academic expert that we are decades yet to put
everything we know about the brain into something that will
allow us to understand it--he was comparing it to the state
of science about the heart.
For the moment, I'll appreciate a human whose brain shows
a flat EEG  as her mouth smiles, her eyes follow and friends
say, She was clearly excited to see me when I came.  As I
appreciate all the humans on this list.
adrienne

At 7:41 AM -0600 3/29/05, Bill Lear wrote:
On Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 03:45:11 (-0800) Doyle Saylor writes:
Greetings Economists,
Bill Lear writes,
What nonsense is this? As I posted on Friday, the neurologist who
examined Terri Schiavo, in detail, flatly refutes this:
     Dr. Ronald Cranford, a neurologist and medical ethicist at the
     University of Minnesota Medical School who has examined
     Ms. Schiavo on behalf of the Florida courts and declared her to
     be irredeemably brain-damaged, said [...]  there was no doubt
     that Ms. Schiavo was in a persistent vegetative state.  "Her CAT
 >     scan shows massive shrinkage of the brain," he said.  "Her EEG is
     flat - flat. There's no electrical activity coming from her
 >     brain."
Doyle,
I don't understand what is nonsense about saying that.  ...
What is nonsense is that the claim was made that "No brain scan or MRI
is used to confirm this neurological diagnosis".  This directly
refutes this.
...
this is just a brief moment in which Bill Lear seems upset by some minor
point from the disabled rights side. ...
If you can't get your basic facts straight, Doyle, don't bother
posting, as you are wasting everyone's time.  I was responding to a
factual claim, made by Lennard J. Davis in the Chicago Tribune.
Adrienne said the article "addresses some of the scientific medical
issues surrounding brain damage and the labeling of Schiavo's
condition", when in fact it made an outrageously false claim, not "some
minor point", as you claim, disingenuously.
The left, whatever that is, requires at the very least honest debate.
Spewing outlandish and readily refuted falsehoods is a sure path to
disaster.
Bill