so where are the negative connotations of the word "insurgent"? Just
because one uses that word doesn't mean that the US invaders are good
in some way.

I've never been a big fan of the "politically correct" language
theory, in which the word one uses to describe some phenomenon is
almost as important as the phenomenon itself.
--JD

On 5/12/05, Ian wrote:
>>>I think naming the resistance in Iraq an insurgency concedes too
much to the Pentagon and White House. Were the North Vietnamese
insurgents?<<<

me: >> El dictionario (http://dict.die.net) defines "insurgent" as:

adj : in opposition to a civil authority or government [syn:
 seditious, subversive]
n 1: a person who takes part in an armed rebellion against the
 constituted authority (especially in the hope of improving
conditions)  [syn: insurrectionist, freedom fighter, rebel]
2: a member of an irregular armed force that fights a stronger force
by sabotage and harassment [syn: guerrilla, guerilla, irregular]

>> except for the bit about "constituted authority," this definition
--  which represents the judgement by the dictionary-writers about the
most common usages -- seems to fit the opposition groups in Iraq. It's
 not like the word "insurgents" involves negative (or positive) value 
judgements. (Hey, it's better than the increasingly common word 
"terrorists.")<<

Ian now writes: > Seems to me that they want the US Army, which is
there illegally, and all the political forces that have been
established since the invasion, to be dismantled; to call them
insurgents is to attempt to settle by discursive fiat that the
institutions in Iraq are a legitimate government, which is precisely
at issue. So naming what's going on is a political issue which does
involve judgement. Cutting  the USG any slack on language is a big
mistake, given no one in the US is about to contest their lies by
extra-discursive means........<

-- 
Jim Devine
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