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From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David B.
Shemano

> The last time I looked there is a fully-functioning airline system in the
United States.

Hum, there are airlines in the USA but I wouldn't really call them
"fully-functioning" and they don't appear to operate in anything that looks
very much like the normal capitalist system.  They reschedule their debts
all the time and they don't ever seem to keep to the contracts they make.
You surely could not run the whole of American industry on this basis.

>This is factually incorrect.  As we discussed awhile ago, workers are a
favored bankruptcy constituency

Oh come on David this is wilfully missing the point.  Workers are a favoured
bankruptcy constituency only for salaries earned but not paid (ie they are
only a favoured constituency for the amounts for which they are actual
creditors of the company).  As far as reneging on labour contracts (and even
pension benefits are concerned), this is one of the first things that
companies are allowed to do in Chapter 11.  The factor that Michael has
correctly identified is that, practically alone among contracts, collective
labour bargaining agreements are these days treated as if they weren't
really proper contracts and the employer is allowed to just chuck them away
when they become onerous.  This is one of the main reasons for the high
levels of bankruptcy in some industries; it is quite easy to structure your
company so it is going to go bankrupt and Chapter 11 is a normal tool of
labour relations in some industries.

dd

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