Carroll wrote: while the only 'lesson' that one could draw from the Tonkin Bay Affair was that there were some crooks in government. Big Deal. ------------------
you possibly underestimate how many previously fundamentally right-wing people had their minds completely blown by such an obvious example of government dishonesty and turned into reliable and highly competent left-wing cadres. I am certainly aware of at least two such who have completely changed their minds and their politics as a result of the fibs told by the UK govt over the Iraq war. best dd
