I appreciate hearing Cristobal's views on the Peru situation (and his views
on our own exchange).  I want to just add a focus on one point: the role of
nationalism.  IMO he is quite right that progressive social movements will
need to draw on national (and ethnic) pride if they are to move
forward.  But since the IMF, etc has been mentioned, I am reminded that
nationalism also played an important role in bringing Latin America to its
current subservience to the IMF, etc.

Today we tend to think of neo-liberalism as so overwhelmingly powerful that
we forget that at the onset of the Latin American debt crisis (1982-3) the
IMF had only a very shaky and undefined role and there was a very real
prospect that Latin America would unite to form some version of a debtors
cartel (in cooperation with other parts of the 3rd world).  As in Latin
America's past, nationalism played no small role in preventing such a
cooperative effort (and no small role in within individual countries in
maintaining in power those who put their countries on a neo-liberal
path).  I don't believe such trans-national unity would have single handily
reversed the tide of neo-liberalism, but I think one can readily believe
Lat Am would be far less poor today.

That is part of the irony of the issue:  nationalism (and ethnic pride)
will certainly help advance things today...but at crucial points they will
also help prevent you from seeing larger perspectives and joining with
larger like-minded forces (and mislead you into trusting forces that
ultimately weaken the country).

Paul

Cristobal writes:
......
Finally, let me emphasize that the  nationalist road has taken the number one
political priority in all of Latin  America (except Colombia) after the
savage brutality inflicted by the IMF,  American and European capital of
late. It
is a necessary first step in the  recovery of  economic growth in the region.
The resurgence of indigenous  power is also due to the fact that one of the
objectives of neo-lib  globalization was quickly achieved: the dissolution
of the
"national  bourgeoisies" whose interests are now totally intertwined to those
of  Wall  St.
It is also culturally and politically important to non-European societies  to
develop their autonomous social/thought independent of the traditional
Euro-centric canons from the right or  the left. In this respect, the  North-
American left, who is now extinct in terms of reach and
political  influence, can
learn a lot from new successful movements in Latin America in  terms of
reinvigoration trough practical and ideological  innovation.

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