On Jun 25, 2006, at 1:50 PM, Doyle Saylor wrote:

You favor sometimes using the term, narcissistic, which is an
attempt to label a personality disorder.  It's just your fancy as a
writer to metaphorically say someone is narcissistic, but in terms of
what a class does narcissistically it is not connected to the larger
class workings of capitalism.

I rarely use the word "narcissistic" metaphorically, and the word
isn't a mere "attempt" to label a disorder, but one that's in pretty
wide use. When certain personality types become prevalent, or
characterize group behavior, I'd say that we've gone beyond the realm
of individual psychology into something more broadly social - so they
are linked to the larger class workings of capitalism. I wrote at
some length in Wall Street (now available for free download at
<http://www.wallstreetthebook.com>) about how the gold standard era
produced and/or reflected certain personality traits characteristic
of early capitalism - the classic anal/obsessive trio of orderliness,
obstinacy, and thrift - and how the breakdown of the gold standard
into a pure credit standard reflected a social transition away from
those "virtues" towards more immediate gratification. That transition
came with the weakening of patriarchy. So I am quite willing to argue
that "personality disorders" are associated with historical changes
in class relations.

  If over night Utah Mormons found a
solution to narcissism capitalism would still be here.

I'm tempted to say the Mormons suffer from an entirely different
disorder, but that would open another can of worms I'd rather leave
sealed.

Doug

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