On 9/2/06, Doyle Saylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
For example, the segregation of men from women in Iran via religious
traditions is not Socialistic view of social equality.  Where Marx sees
the whole of the working class, Islam knowledge practice mostly sees
men and women apart in terms of how knowledge is shared.

It's not so much Islam per se as Iran itself that is a homosocial
society anyhow, like many other parts of Asia, including generally
irreligious Japan.  Iran, too, has gotten secularized, due to
increasing development, urbanization, proletarianization, and so on,
so, in the near future, it will probably either drop Islamism or
reform Islam to end de jure gender segregation where it still exists,
but the basic homosocial organization of society will probably outlive
that change.

Homosocial societies have their charm.

In other words what is irreversible in Socialism?  What is it that
prevents reversion to Capitalism?

Very difficult but important questions.  Historically, the vanguard
for restoration of capitalism in socialist society have been either
the bureaucratic power elite themselves or dissident intellectuals
(who compared their station in socialist life with that of their
counterpart in capitalist life and found the former wanting) or both.

Yiching Wu's "Rethinking 'Capitalist Restoration' in China" (Monthly
Review 57.6, November 2005,
<http://www.monthlyreview.org/1105wu.htm>) may be of interest to you:

<blockquote>Invoking the historical experience of the Chinese
Revolution, William Hinton conveyed the Maoist thesis of "bourgeois
restoration" in the vivid metaphor of revolutionary prairie fire:

   A single spark can start a prairie fire. And so it...ignited a
prairie fire that carried all before it, bringing more change to China
in a few decades than two millennia had previously brought forth. But
now the fire has burned itself out, and, as the flames die down, it
becomes apparent that change has not been deep. Fire burned the
foliage off, but the roots of the old civilization survived and are
now sending up vigorous sprouts that push aside and overwhelm, in one
sphere after another, all revolutionary innovations.33

Hinton's colorful metaphor, however, is premised on a problematic
conception of historical determination, namely, the determination of
the present by the residual forces of the past. Revolutions certainly
do not eliminate the past, they write on top of it. Yet the revolution
also produces its own contradictions. Socialism is not just built on
top of the surviving deposits of capitalism, feudalism, or whatever.
The remnants of the past enter into the new society and are
necessarily conditioned by its newly created antagonisms and
contradictions. The dead weight of past history cannot be easily
restored backwards. Or it will perhaps take much longer—certainly
longer than the two or so decades taken by the very speedy
"restoration" in China. The extraordinary development of capitalism in
China today is fueled by a more powerful logic of social
recomposition—it has been aided by far more efficient and expeditious
means, driven by class forces that operate more from above than from
below, more within than without. The ideological significance of
bourgeois restoration—and the Maoist theory of class struggle that
formed its nucleus—lay in their function of _diversion_ and
_mystification_. By concentrating on remnants from past traditions,
spontaneous petty tendencies from below, and insidious capitalist
roaders and their line from within, the Maoist discourse of capitalist
restoration distorted and obscured the central contradiction of
post-revolutionary Chinese society.</blockquote>

That -- 'By concentrating on remnants from past traditions,
spontaneous petty tendencies from below, and insidious capitalist
roaders and their line from within, the Maoist discourse of capitalist
restoration distorted and obscured the central contradiction of
post-revolutionary Chinese society" -- is an important insight.  That
is why I've been saying that history does not repeat itself, not even
as a farce, and that believing, without evidence, that the same
constellation of social forces of the past still obtained in the
present makes us unable to see what's what.
--
Yoshie
<http://montages.blogspot.com/>
<http://mrzine.org>
<http://monthlyreview.org/>

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