Carrol, why would you bring up Yoshie & Iran again?  Please don't.

On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 05:36:12PM -0600, Carrol Cox wrote:
> Iran may be a sort of test case of Ellen Wood's Empire of Capital and
> the article "Endless War" she published in Historical Materialism.
> Modern imperialism can't exert direct control over all the areas in
> which it operates, but capital _always_ requires a nation state. Hence
> capital in the core capitalist states has to depend on states not under
> direct imperial control to discipline their population to the needs of
> imperial capital. This requires "endless war" to keep reminding the
> various semi-autonomous states of their duty!
>
> >From Yoshie's posts on Iran I would gather (re stacking contradictions
> in the right order) that the principal  contradiction in Iran today is
> that between neo-liberalism and illiberal nationalism. And, she argues,
> the latter _may_ show some signs of becoming less illiberal, at least if
> it triumphs over neoliberalism. And the principal aspect of that
> contradiction is Neoliberalism, since the Mullahs who have final say
> tend toward that position, and the president doesn't yet have the
> strength to overcome them. Iran, like any state, is a _process_, not
> static metaphysical entity, and it can't be understood by piling up
> randomly collected empirical data and generalizing from it, which is the
> procedure, ahistorical and anti-dialectical, Doug and Lou are following
> in their attacks on Yoshie.
>
> Now implicit, I think, in all Yoshie's Iran posts has been the premise
> that the principal contradiction in the world today is between U.S.
> imperialism and the rest of the world; moreover, so far it is the U.S.
> aspect that is dominant. U.S. leftists must somehow work towards
> reversing the u.s. dominance of that contradiction, and only then will
> _domestic_ contradictions 'ripen' enough for us to seriously exploit
> them. It is in that context, in reference to u.s. imperialism that "the
> enemy of my enemy is my ally"! (This is subject to challenge in specific
> cases, but the burden of proof is on those who raise such challenges,
> and given the immense threat that u.s. imperialism represents to all
> humanity, the burden is a heavy one.)
>
> That u.s. dominance internationally is reflected internally in
> innumerable ways. It shows in the passivity of the u.s. working class
> (80+% of the population, more to be described as a giant in a coma than
> a sleeping giant), in the dominance of the DP, and in the dominance
> among leftists of those who want to look to "nuances" in the field of
> international relations, judging each u.s. act separately. (The
> outrageous support from the left of the Serbian and Afghanistan
> aggressions are notable examples of the last point.) Hence my hypothesis
> that the drift to the right in the u.s. won't stop until its world
> hegemony is at least given a good shake.
>
> I don't think Iran is going to drift or be forced, in the near future,
> into the neoliberal orbit. The imperialist problems in Iraq, in
> Afghanistan, & in Latin America are a drag on u.s. power: not enough of
> a drag actually to weaken it but enough of a drag that it can't expand
> its power right now. And that same tendency (weakness) affects events
> within Iran: the neoliberals there can't open their nation entirely to a
> power that is in such hot water. (This balance of forces in Iran is what
> Yoshie has been trying to explore.)
>
> It is fairly  obvious now that the Iraqi people were far better off
> under the rule of Hussein than they are now, and the semi-hysterical
> attacks on Yoshie over Iran in the last several months remind me of the
> equally hysterical insistence three years ago that we could not oppose
> the u.s. invasion of Iraq without  first (like a Roman politician in
> Shakespeare showing his wounds to the mob) demonstrating through loud
> condemnations of Saddam the purity of our motives.
>
> It seems to me that whatever discored there may be within u.s. ruling
> circles over the details of the Iraq operation, that class remains solid
> in its determination to establish and maintain u.s. imperial hegemony in
> the mideast and in southern asia. Iran (pending a full awakening of the
> Chinese & Russians to the u.s. peril) is perhaps the major barrier the
> u.s. is encountering there. An Iran hostile to the u.s. (regardless of
> anything else) is an ally of the american people.
>
> Carrol

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