It is about time to think about why Marxism "did not work in the
places where Marxist theory says it was SUPPOSED to work."  It may be
that hitherto existing socialist movements were only equipped to
accomplish the task of eradicating feudal and other pre-capitalist
relations of production, consciousness, etc. (outside the West,
socialists generally do this task much better than capitalists).  It
may be that, beyond a certain threshold of proletarianization, it
becomes difficult to organize people for _anything_, let alone
socialism, so more capitalist development, beyond a certain thershold,
becomes less likelihood of overcoming the capitalist mode of
production.
--
Yoshie


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CB; Or it may be that the forces of destruction have been developed so much
by capitalism that capitalism is able to resist socialist transformation by
pointing nuclear and other guns at the heads of socialist nations, and
playing suicidebomber chicken with the human species, holding it hostage as
the perpetuaion of capitalism.

Also, the capitalists have become even more precisely capitalist class
conscious by the existence of socialist countries and their broadcasting of
Marxist ideas. The capitalist do Marxism in reverse and focus in on
corrupting the revolutionary agents' , the working class, consciousness with
patriotism centered on anti-communism as well as keeping the standard of
living of a critical mass of the U.S. working class at a clearly privileged
level compared with the other workers of the world. Persuading masses of
U.S. workers to prosecute colonialist, anti-communist wars in Korea,
Vietnam, and otherwise confronting communists establishes a very solid,
multigenerational tradition and mentality that is anti-communist. The U.S
working class has anti-communism and patriotism forged in blood and bonded
together in their consciousness. The privileged material circumstances of
betteroff U.S. workers underpins this consciousness. Many American workers
glory in living in "the greatest country in the world."

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