*       From: Angelus Novus

No backpedaling here.  I already said I admire
Anderson's work.  I just don't think an account of
shifting class relations is sufficient to explain the
transition from antiquity to feudalism.

^^^^^
CB: Don't you define slavery, feudalism and capitalism based on the class
relations in them ? It is almost a tautology to say the transition from
slavery to feudalism was a "shift" in class relations, for we mean by
feudalism one set of class relations, and by slavery another set.

Marx and Engels say more specifically that the class relations shifted
because of struggle by the oppressed and exploited classes against their
oppressed and exploited situtation.  The class relations didn't shift
because the ruling classes were persuaded by some nice ideas that some of
their philosophers came up with. Although some of same may have arisen ,
they were mainly the reflection of the struggle by the oppressed classes,
not because a good idea popped into people's heads.

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