I don't mind using superficial analogies, or for that matter empirical
data (that must be obvious by now)... Just food for thought.

I've always felt plain vanilla stock market investing to have a very
different financial 'frame of reference' as far as the type of
investor and why they are investing. Certainly there's an element of
gambling... and indeed, at one time, I even considered derivatives to
be a legitimate hedge. I just don't see any enonomically or socially
useful function to 'playing the spread' etc.

I suspect that internet day-trading created a major moral morass out
of a type of financing that used to be almost exclusively
institutional, with SOME checks & balances regarding risk, and now I
think brokerage reciepts should contain the same warning as lottery
tickets, with referral numbers for gamblers anonymous.

Leigh



On 3/8/07, Leigh Meyers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You mean to say investing pennies on the dollar for price-volatile
> derivatives which are often traded in and out at prices that just
> clear the brokerage costs ISN'T gambling?


That's a rather superficial similarity. Aside from the fact that motel
managers gamble when pricing their rooms, I don't see a similarity between
this example and derivatives. In a certain sense all economic activity
involves some form of gambling and most of the time it is harmless (who is
being harmed because of the pricing of motel rooms?)

On the other hand I see derivatives as a disease. Not only is the gambling
aspect taken to a ridiculous extreme here, but a lot of derivatives trading
may be closely tied to various forms of tax dodges, moral hazard scenarios
and such (see Frank Partnoy's "Infectious Greed" for an interesting account
of derivatives in the 1990's). I am very interested in seeing how the
current explosion of "financial innovation" plays out when the apparent
"liquidity glut" of today dries up.

-raghu.

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