Louis is right. Marx moved away from previous "stagist" theories of
history (such as that of Smith). Instead of stages, more and more
Marx's conceptions centered on the contrast between capitalism and its
unending drive to accumulate surplus-value and capital and other
social formations, which were oriented toward use-value production.

On 4/26/07, Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I believe that there was a general understanding
of historical stages before Marx and Engels ever put pen to paper.

The "4 stage" theory of history was widely
accepted in 17th and 18th century Europe. I
alluded to Lord Kames and William Robertson the
other day, but these two are just the tip of the
iceberg. For the whole story, I recommend Ronald
L. Meek's "Social Science and the Ignoble Savage"
(Cambidge, 1976). Meek might be known to many of
you for his book on the labor theory of value
published by Monthly Review press. "Social
Science and the Ignoble Savage" is essential
reading for those who are trying to come to grips
with the Eurocentric character of much of Marx and Engels' writings.

Meek makes a very important point. Central to the
writings of 17th and 18th century social science
was a belief that American Indians were the prime
example of the 'first' or 'earliest' stage of
human social development. Unlike those like
Rousseau who made the case for a 'noble savage,'
these historians and philosophers thought that
American Indians represented the worst humanity
had to offer. Since American Indian society was
on the lowest stage of human development, its
disappearance would represent progress. John
Locke was one such thinker and his justifications
for British colonialism are well-known.

Just to refresh your memory on the 4-stages, Adam
Smith gave lectures at the University of Glasgow
that described them as 1) the Age of Hunters, 2)
the Age of Shepherds, 3) the Age of Agriculture,
4) the Age of Commerce. He described stage one:

"If we should suppose 10 or 12 persons of
different sexes settled in an uninhabited island,
the first method they would fall upon for their
sustenance would be to support themselves by the
wild fruits and wild animals which the country
afforded. Their sole business would be hunting
the wild beasts or catching the fishes. The
pulling of a wild fruit can hardly be called an
employment. The only thing among them which
deserved the appellation of a business would be
the chase. This is the age of hunters."

You can practically see the austere,
pleasure-hating Scotsman spitting out the words
"can hardly be called an employment."

Another stagist was the French philosopher
Cornelius de Pauw who wrote something called
"Recherches Philosphiques sur les Américains" in
1768. Meek comments that the book was filled with
bizarre speculations about the habitants of the
New World, which he thought included cannibals,
albinos, giants and hermaphrodites. Perhaps de
Pauw was anticipating 1998 Manhattan, who knows?
Much more disturbing and outrageous was his claim
that the inhospitable climate of the continent
explained the ignobility of the indigenous peoples. He writes:

"I return here to that great principle of which I
have already made use, and say it is not only
natural but also necessary that there should be,
as between savages located in such similar
climates, as many resemblances as there possibly
are between the Tunguses [Siberians] and the
Canadians. Equally barbarous, equally living by
hunting and fishing in countries which are cold,
infertile, and covered with forests, what
disproportion would one expect? Where people feel
the same needs, where the means of satisfying
them are the same, where the atmospheric
influences are so similar, can the manners be
contradictory, and can the ideas vary?"

full: http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/indian/engels_stages.htm



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