> Greetings Economists,
> On Jun 5, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Matthijs Krul wrote:
>
>> This same theory of language is interesting because Habermas uses it
>> explicitly to argue against Marx and in favor of Kant; see
>
> Doyle;
> That is where Habermas is working in metaphysics.  His work as far as I
> know is not grounded in physiology.  Within metaphysics it is hard to
> prove anything about language.
>
> Whereas, we have a lot of computer experience, and neuroscience
> experience to better ground what we are talking about in reference to
> language.  Much as I disagree with Chomsky, linguistic theory of noun
> phrases, and verb phrases summarize a certain sort of physical
> experience.  I.e. we see something distinct we name it, it does
> something we explain the movement that is how the thing did something.
> Which follow from visual physiology.
>
> These observations have correlates in neuroscience, and that's where
> Habermas has no influence.  Here is the link to Wikipedia essay on
> Mead.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mead
>
> One interesting discussion in this area is in the book "The Invisible
> Sex, Uncovering the True Roles of Women in Prehistory", Collins, 2007,
> J.M.Adovasio, Olga Soffer, Jake Page.
>
> pages 103 to 113 ending  with the observation based upon how speech is
> present in both hemispheres of most human females that females invented
> language.  In the past Brocas and Wernicke's areas were considered left
> brain only which may reflect male bias about language.
> Doyle
>
>

Well I'm in no position to evaluate that, I'll readily admit. I don't
think we need be entirely physiological in terms of neuroscience to talk
about language formation and its related formation of the self/other,
though; for example, the Mead-Cooley Hypothesis is supported (moderately)
by modern empirical research. See David C. Lundgren, "Social Feedback and
Self-Appraisals: Current Status of the Mead-Cooley Hypothesis" in:
Symbolic Interaction (Spring 2004), p. 267-286., (available at
http://caliber.ucpress.net/doi/abs/10.1525/si.2004.27.2.267.), and
Lundgren, Jergens & Gibson, "Marital Power, Roles, and Solidarity and
Husbands' and Wives' Appraisals of Self and Other", in: Sociological
Inquiry 52 (Dec 1982), p. 33-52 (available at
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1475-682X.1982.tb01237.x).

But maybe I'm getting too offtopic here - philosophy is my specialization,
not linguistics or economics, so I just wanted to throw that out there. I
think the theory is relevant when talking about origins of altruism, which
was the original subject.

Matthijs Krul

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