On Jun 26, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Carrol Cox wrote:

Global warming and other ecological issues seem to present the same
difficulty. Consider the number of concerned writers on the topic who,
when push comes to shove, can only resort to proclaiming that people
must give up their bad habits of consumption! In other words, so
far no
one has come up with practical theories on the _concrete_ demands _on
the state_, around which truly significant mass movements can be
organized.

But averting climate catastrophe involves changing the way people
live their daily lives, the sooner the better. This sort of stance -
we can't do anything until we do everything - could result in stasis
and despair. If Americans gave up their SUVs for hybrids, walked
more, adjusted the thermostat on the heat and a/c, and did other
things along those lines that you regularly disparage, it would make
a difference. It wouldn't solve the problem, but it would help, and
not trivially.

Just one sticking point: China simply cannot afford to cut down its
industrial production unless the U.S. and Europe cut down first. I am
sure one can multiply this kind of sticky point endlessly. That's what
capitalism is all about -- creating contexts in which someone must
first
commit suicide before one can seriously organize collective action.

The liberal bourgeoisie is well aware of this problem. Listen to
Nicholas Stern talking at <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/
Radio.html#070419>. Whether they can do anything about it is an open
question. But your point wouldn't be news to them.

Doug

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