In a message dated 9/26/07 3:35:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> On 9/26/07, Doyle Saylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well I think Jim's point applies to this guess.  Being gay or lesbian
> > is a cultural construct.  One is not born gay.  A society that defines
> > same sex as evil will probably inculcate in everyone the sense "I don't
> > do that" so there is 'no' gay or lesbian.  Except don't ask don't tell
> > comes into play.  That means a society that 'forbids' same sex can't
> > admit anything so what people do is not socially acceptable and
> > therefore there is 'no' gay or lesbian.
> >
> > That said, I would point out that 'gay and lesbian' is not a fixed
> > identity.  I've run into myself quite a bit of people who don't see
> > themselves as 'gay' but 'queer'.
> 
> Interesting comments.
> Btw what's the difference? (i.e. between 'gay' and 'queer'?)
> -raghu.
> 
Hello, again, penners,

This is your ever-lovin' lurker, Rob, cranking up his courage, yet again, 
to make an obvious observation on this apparently popular academic 
topic, judging from the length of the thread on this and other lists, 
as well as in general, judging from the TV coverage of the 
world-shaking words of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

As I pointed out, either to this list or to an individual list member, 
many months ago, theoretically speaking, anyone who has ever
masturbated has committed/performed a homosexual act, and 
has had a homosexual experience, "gay," "queer," or whatever. 
If that person has masturbated a hundred times, she/he has had 
a hundred homosexual experiences!   (Of Rank 1, of course.)   And it 
boggles the mind to seriously consider what has really happened, 
in a lifetime.

And on top of this, or underneath, depending upon your par-
ticular positional preference, anyone who has masturbated, 
say, a hundred times, and knew that what she/he was doing was 
oh, so wrong, in God's and humanity's eyes, but one time (just one 
time!) said to hell with it all and decided to enjoy it, had an 
ENJOYABLE homosexual experience!!!   (Of Rank 1.)

Some (queer?) questions immediately come to mind:

1)     Has the good/bad/naughty/sacrilegious/whatever Engineering 
Professor and now President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran ever 
masturbated, aka had a homosexual experience?

2)     Has he ever had an enjoyable homosexual experience? 

3)     Or, is that his problem?

4)     For that matter, has the prompter-prompted President Dubya 
of the United States of America (that sure hurts!) ever masturbated, 
aka had a homosexual experience?   I've heard they do strange things 
before being inducted into Skull and crossbones at Yale.

5)     More importantly, has he (the j-off!) ever had an enjoyable homo-
sexual experience?

6)     Is that HIS problem?

7)     Wonder about President of Columbia Lee C. Bollinger? 

8)     Then there is Senator Craig?

9)     Then there is you?

Until today, I never realized why I was give the inspiration/epiphany 
of the identicality of (Rank 1) masturbation and homosexuality, many 
years ago.   Must have been something I was doing at the time.

But it's all so clear, now!   The subject is orbiting the globe, and 
is "hot."   Sex is everywhere.   Use it!

SEX IS THE COSMIC JOKE!

Respectfully, to all you homosexuals and/or heteroflexers,

Rob George
www.CenterSDS.com








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